Q for No-SQL Fans - What do you think of the NOOP-OSCN project ?
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After having read the millionth item (be it a post or article in general) about No-SQL and the drive to rid the programing world of this evil thing called SQL I decided to see what you guys (and gals) thought about the NOOP-OSCN project and its goals? The NOOP-OSCN project, aka "No Object Oriented Programming or Spaghetti Code Needed" (pronounced No-Poo-Scan) is a DBA & DB Dev lead effort to come up with an SQL only programming model so that DBA's and DB developers alike can be free from having to learn how to use/work with those evil minions of design, OOP and Procedural programming. I agree that the NOOP-OSCN effort is silly but is it any sillier then similar efforts under way to come up with a way to avoid learning how to use something you don't like by mangling something you do like till you can make it do everything you need and want even if it does everything poorly? Just curious
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After having read the millionth item (be it a post or article in general) about No-SQL and the drive to rid the programing world of this evil thing called SQL I decided to see what you guys (and gals) thought about the NOOP-OSCN project and its goals? The NOOP-OSCN project, aka "No Object Oriented Programming or Spaghetti Code Needed" (pronounced No-Poo-Scan) is a DBA & DB Dev lead effort to come up with an SQL only programming model so that DBA's and DB developers alike can be free from having to learn how to use/work with those evil minions of design, OOP and Procedural programming. I agree that the NOOP-OSCN effort is silly but is it any sillier then similar efforts under way to come up with a way to avoid learning how to use something you don't like by mangling something you do like till you can make it do everything you need and want even if it does everything poorly? Just curious
YSLGuru wrote:
is it any sillier then similar efforts under way to come up with a way to avoid learning how to use something you don't like by mangling something you do like till you can make it do everything you need and want even if it does everything poorly?
Reminds me of an old boss that was used to pascal, and when we switched to C++, she wanted me to make macros that replaced the curly braces with
beginandend. Other that that one brain fart, she was one of the best bosses I've ever had.".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
After having read the millionth item (be it a post or article in general) about No-SQL and the drive to rid the programing world of this evil thing called SQL I decided to see what you guys (and gals) thought about the NOOP-OSCN project and its goals? The NOOP-OSCN project, aka "No Object Oriented Programming or Spaghetti Code Needed" (pronounced No-Poo-Scan) is a DBA & DB Dev lead effort to come up with an SQL only programming model so that DBA's and DB developers alike can be free from having to learn how to use/work with those evil minions of design, OOP and Procedural programming. I agree that the NOOP-OSCN effort is silly but is it any sillier then similar efforts under way to come up with a way to avoid learning how to use something you don't like by mangling something you do like till you can make it do everything you need and want even if it does everything poorly? Just curious
Do you have any info on that NOOP-OSCN project? Googling NOOP[^] got that, which does sound interesting. I have abused SQL server way past any reasonable expectation, and have used memcached as well. I ended up moving off of both of them because the specific problem I was working on didn't really require scaling out. Highly optimized C# with a 6-8Gig process out performed them both. Picking a design that matches your problem very closely can make a huge difference. This sums up what I like about the NoSQL options out there now. NoSQL is about...[^] It's definitely not for everybody. The project I've been working on since June is just a run of the mill ASP.Net 4.0 web app on a sql server backend using entity framework with 40 users. Nothing fancy.
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
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After having read the millionth item (be it a post or article in general) about No-SQL and the drive to rid the programing world of this evil thing called SQL I decided to see what you guys (and gals) thought about the NOOP-OSCN project and its goals? The NOOP-OSCN project, aka "No Object Oriented Programming or Spaghetti Code Needed" (pronounced No-Poo-Scan) is a DBA & DB Dev lead effort to come up with an SQL only programming model so that DBA's and DB developers alike can be free from having to learn how to use/work with those evil minions of design, OOP and Procedural programming. I agree that the NOOP-OSCN effort is silly but is it any sillier then similar efforts under way to come up with a way to avoid learning how to use something you don't like by mangling something you do like till you can make it do everything you need and want even if it does everything poorly? Just curious
YSLGuru wrote:
(pronounced No-Poo-Scan)
But what if your kid swallows a quarter?
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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YSLGuru wrote:
(pronounced No-Poo-Scan)
But what if your kid swallows a quarter?
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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YSLGuru wrote:
(pronounced No-Poo-Scan)
But what if your kid swallows a quarter?
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
You will also never know if your dog ate the mailman...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
YSLGuru wrote:
is it any sillier then similar efforts under way to come up with a way to avoid learning how to use something you don't like by mangling something you do like till you can make it do everything you need and want even if it does everything poorly?
Reminds me of an old boss that was used to pascal, and when we switched to C++, she wanted me to make macros that replaced the curly braces with
beginandend. Other that that one brain fart, she was one of the best bosses I've ever had.".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
macros that replaced the curly braces with
beginandendMy college C professor suggested that to we who were too Pascalicized -- it got me through the course.
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After having read the millionth item (be it a post or article in general) about No-SQL and the drive to rid the programing world of this evil thing called SQL I decided to see what you guys (and gals) thought about the NOOP-OSCN project and its goals? The NOOP-OSCN project, aka "No Object Oriented Programming or Spaghetti Code Needed" (pronounced No-Poo-Scan) is a DBA & DB Dev lead effort to come up with an SQL only programming model so that DBA's and DB developers alike can be free from having to learn how to use/work with those evil minions of design, OOP and Procedural programming. I agree that the NOOP-OSCN effort is silly but is it any sillier then similar efforts under way to come up with a way to avoid learning how to use something you don't like by mangling something you do like till you can make it do everything you need and want even if it does everything poorly? Just curious
Is it better than BILLY-OSCN? :-D But seriously, sounds interesting, got a link?
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Then you'd better cancel any air travel plans for the next few days, and plan on calling in sick if the school has metal detectors. :laugh:
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Dan Neely wrote:
cancel any air travel plans
Bah! I flew a few days ago and neither my belt nor my bolo tie set off the detector.
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After having read the millionth item (be it a post or article in general) about No-SQL and the drive to rid the programing world of this evil thing called SQL I decided to see what you guys (and gals) thought about the NOOP-OSCN project and its goals? The NOOP-OSCN project, aka "No Object Oriented Programming or Spaghetti Code Needed" (pronounced No-Poo-Scan) is a DBA & DB Dev lead effort to come up with an SQL only programming model so that DBA's and DB developers alike can be free from having to learn how to use/work with those evil minions of design, OOP and Procedural programming. I agree that the NOOP-OSCN effort is silly but is it any sillier then similar efforts under way to come up with a way to avoid learning how to use something you don't like by mangling something you do like till you can make it do everything you need and want even if it does everything poorly? Just curious
