DSLR suggestion
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After a lot of research (including pricing) have reduced my options to Nikon D3100[^] or D5000[^]. Which one would you guys suggest? I currently own a point and shoot camera (Sony DSC-H7), so this would be my first DSLR/SLR. The camera would mainly be used for taking family and vacation photo. D5000 has a swivel screen, 4 fps continous shooting, different lighting modes and bracketing. Not sure if I need any of those features. D3100 has an auto video focus, full HD videos and the resolution is 14.2 MP compared to 12.2 MP of D5000.
I have Canon Rebel XSi[^] and it's very nice (3 years old)... You can take a look at Canon Rebel T2i[^], very nice camera. And dont consider DSLRs for the HD Video recording. it will not record longer videos. You need a Camcorder for that. (same as you cant use Camcorders to take pictures even if it supports it. you need different lense + processing unit for video and picture.) I have Canon VIXIA HF20 Camcorder which is very nice...
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After a lot of research (including pricing) have reduced my options to Nikon D3100[^] or D5000[^]. Which one would you guys suggest? I currently own a point and shoot camera (Sony DSC-H7), so this would be my first DSLR/SLR. The camera would mainly be used for taking family and vacation photo. D5000 has a swivel screen, 4 fps continous shooting, different lighting modes and bracketing. Not sure if I need any of those features. D3100 has an auto video focus, full HD videos and the resolution is 14.2 MP compared to 12.2 MP of D5000.
Do you really need a DSLR ? I know, crazy question... Are you ready to spend money on extra lenses ? the kit lenses that comes with the cameras are ok for basic scenes, normal/high lighting situations, but once you try to take pictures of family you will see you will need to have a "faster" lens with shake reduction. and after that you will need a longer zoom, and after that a wider lens, and after that a macro lens, and then a flash, and then ... Anyway, Go for a Pentax K-r ... ;P Max.
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Refutance is systile .... :-D
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Absolutely agree! (But I'm already casting envious glances in directio of D7000) :-O
Manfred R. Bihy wrote:
But I'm already casting envious glances in directio of D7000
Same here, just need to figure out a way to convince the wife!
Regards, Nish
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Wow, this should not be allowed here. Canonians hijacking Nikonian threads. :)
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Do you really need a DSLR ? I know, crazy question... Are you ready to spend money on extra lenses ? the kit lenses that comes with the cameras are ok for basic scenes, normal/high lighting situations, but once you try to take pictures of family you will see you will need to have a "faster" lens with shake reduction. and after that you will need a longer zoom, and after that a wider lens, and after that a macro lens, and then a flash, and then ... Anyway, Go for a Pentax K-r ... ;P Max.
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The one reason I'm seriously considering a DSLR with an idiot button for my next camera is that the shutter lag on point and shoot cameras makes taking action pictures almost impossible. I'd kill for the ability to take the 1st picture instantly instead of .1 to .25 seconds after pressing the button.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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After a lot of research (including pricing) have reduced my options to Nikon D3100[^] or D5000[^]. Which one would you guys suggest? I currently own a point and shoot camera (Sony DSC-H7), so this would be my first DSLR/SLR. The camera would mainly be used for taking family and vacation photo. D5000 has a swivel screen, 4 fps continous shooting, different lighting modes and bracketing. Not sure if I need any of those features. D3100 has an auto video focus, full HD videos and the resolution is 14.2 MP compared to 12.2 MP of D5000.
Skimp on the Camera and get a good lens like maybe the Canon 70-200m L USM II This is also a less direct way of suggesting you get a Canon.
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Skimp on the Camera and get a good lens like maybe the Canon 70-200m L USM II This is also a less direct way of suggesting you get a Canon.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Yes in principle. buy the best lens you can and get the cheapest camera body that fit that lens.
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I know you've asked for a choice between 2, but I have the Canon D60[^] and absolutely love it. It has the swivel screen (which you will use more than you realise), 18MP, tons of options plus a simple auto-mode that makes it perfect for those who've not used a DSLR before. And you can also play with the Canon Hacker Development Kit[^].
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I had looked at pictures taken on Cannon Rebel xs/T2i and was not impressed with them. Whereas pictures taken on Nikon looked really nice. People who mostly did not know much about SLR's took the pictures on both the brands.
Chris Maunder wrote:
It has the swivel screen (which you will use more than you realise),
This is one of the major reason for the confusion on the two models.
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bracketing is handy if you're doing HDR stuff - it takes multiple exposures at slightly different speeds in rapid succession. HDR software can then blend these exposures into an HDR image. it's also handy when dealing with tricky lighting. either of them would be fine, but i'd go for the 5000 just for bracketing. none of the other differences really matter to me. but, that's just me. you might never use bracketing. actually, my choice might depend on what kind of lens i could get bundled with one of the other...
Chris Losinger wrote:
HDR stuff
Saw some HDR pictures and the look really cool. Would probably consider that while making the decision.
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The D5000 has a newer model, the D5100. I'd say that's a good model to consider. Probably better than the 3100 and the 5000.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
The D5000 has a newer model, the D5100.
The D5100 is $300 more than D3100 and D5000. I have given up convincing my wife on spending $900 on a camera.
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Skimp on the Camera and get a good lens like maybe the Canon 70-200m L USM II This is also a less direct way of suggesting you get a Canon.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Skimp on the Camera and get a good lens like maybe the
I did not know you could use the lenses on different camera body. Will need to research more I guess.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Skimp on the Camera and get a good lens like maybe the
I did not know you could use the lenses on different camera body. Will need to research more I guess.
When someone buys a camera, he buys first and foremost a lens "system". Lenses will outlive camera bodies for a long time. For example, on Pentax, we can still use old "m42" lenses (with an adapter) made for film on newer bodies; it also support screw-driven focus and motorized focus (SDM). For example, some newer Canon and Nikon "entry" level cameras do not have motors for the older screw-driven focus lenses, so you need to buy new lenses to be able to use auto-focus; if you have old lenses you can use them, but the focus will be manual.
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I had looked at pictures taken on Cannon Rebel xs/T2i and was not impressed with them. Whereas pictures taken on Nikon looked really nice. People who mostly did not know much about SLR's took the pictures on both the brands.
Chris Maunder wrote:
It has the swivel screen (which you will use more than you realise),
This is one of the major reason for the confusion on the two models.
The D60 is a different kettle of fish than the T2i (though not by a huge amount). If you can look at pictures taken with both and see a significant enough difference that you'd choose one over the other then you are a better photographer than I am. I'm seen pics taken with both, and spoken to enough pros who use both, to believe there's no huge difference. A wedding photographer I spoke to preferred the Canon because he said it gives a far warmer, more human feel to the pics, but from what I've seen, apart from super close-ups where you start picking apart pixellation, they are the same. However, it's a personal choice so go with the one that you feel is best for you otherwise you'll kick yourself.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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The D60 is a different kettle of fish than the T2i (though not by a huge amount). If you can look at pictures taken with both and see a significant enough difference that you'd choose one over the other then you are a better photographer than I am. I'm seen pics taken with both, and spoken to enough pros who use both, to believe there's no huge difference. A wedding photographer I spoke to preferred the Canon because he said it gives a far warmer, more human feel to the pics, but from what I've seen, apart from super close-ups where you start picking apart pixellation, they are the same. However, it's a personal choice so go with the one that you feel is best for you otherwise you'll kick yourself.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
If you can look at pictures taken with both and see a significant enough difference that you'd choose one over the other then you are a better photographer than I am.
The difference could have been because of wrong settings on the camera or the person taking the pictures was a very bad photographer. I could clearly see a difference in the quality of the pictures, they were not sharp and the pictures where not bright, again this could have been bad settings.
Chris Maunder wrote:
The D60 is a different kettle of fish than the T2i
I did look at EOS 60D (D60 is 6.3 MP and 60D was the 18 MP) after you mentioned about it and did read some good reviews about it. But the price of $1300 is more than double the price of the camera I selected. Based on how my photography skills shape up, I might end up buying a nice one in the near future.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
If you can look at pictures taken with both and see a significant enough difference that you'd choose one over the other then you are a better photographer than I am.
The difference could have been because of wrong settings on the camera or the person taking the pictures was a very bad photographer. I could clearly see a difference in the quality of the pictures, they were not sharp and the pictures where not bright, again this could have been bad settings.
Chris Maunder wrote:
The D60 is a different kettle of fish than the T2i
I did look at EOS 60D (D60 is 6.3 MP and 60D was the 18 MP) after you mentioned about it and did read some good reviews about it. But the price of $1300 is more than double the price of the camera I selected. Based on how my photography skills shape up, I might end up buying a nice one in the near future.
Tarakeshwar Reddy wrote:
did look at EOS 60D (D60 is 6.3 MP and 60D was the 18 MP)
Sorry - I always get 60D and D60 mixed up. I meant the 18MP Canon 60D.
Tarakeshwar Reddy wrote:
But the price of $1300 is more than double the price of the camera I selected.
You have two kidneys. You only need one. For shame!
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote:
If you can look at pictures taken with both and see a significant enough difference that you'd choose one over the other then you are a better photographer than I am.
The difference could have been because of wrong settings on the camera or the person taking the pictures was a very bad photographer. I could clearly see a difference in the quality of the pictures, they were not sharp and the pictures where not bright, again this could have been bad settings.
Chris Maunder wrote:
The D60 is a different kettle of fish than the T2i
I did look at EOS 60D (D60 is 6.3 MP and 60D was the 18 MP) after you mentioned about it and did read some good reviews about it. But the price of $1300 is more than double the price of the camera I selected. Based on how my photography skills shape up, I might end up buying a nice one in the near future.
Tarakeshwar Reddy wrote:
The difference could have been because of wrong settings on the camera or the person taking the pictures was a very bad photographer. I could clearly see a difference in the quality of the pictures, they were not sharp and the pictures where not bright, again this could have been bad settings.
I was going to warn you to avoid the DSLR my dad recently got (the quality of some of the pictures he sent me recently looked like a cheap cell phone); but when I checked the exif data to mock it by name, it seems he bought a kodak swindlebox that only looks like one. Apparently implementing farcebook integration was so expensive they couldn't afford anything approaching a halfway decent sensor. :doh:
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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Manfred R. Bihy wrote:
But I'm already casting envious glances in directio of D7000
Same here, just need to figure out a way to convince the wife!
Regards, Nish
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