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Why There is 12 Function key on Key board? [modified]

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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    I personally think the keys should start at F0 instead of F1.

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    JimmyRopes
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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    I personally think the keys should start at F0 instead of F1.

    It does F0 is Esc. :-D

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    • D Dan Neely

      10 also fit naturally with the function keys on the side layout since a standard keyboard has 5 rows of keys.

      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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      OriginalGriff
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      And so it was with the original IBM XT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ibm_px_xt_color.jpg[^] 83 keys, 10 of them function keys.

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        To give people practice writing the word "Function", which you apprently still need...

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        apprently

        :snigger: function is one of those words that I frequently swap the n and the c when typing altho, I can't remember doing it recently.

        Pete

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        • G Gregory Gadow

          Originally, there were no function keys, just a special button (Fn) similar to Ctrl or Alt. Fn was used with the number keys, which have always been layed out 1 to 0. So when dedicated function keys were added to keyboards, they kept the same arrangement with F1 on the left, then F2, F3 and so on. Having F0 as the right most looked funny, so it came to be labeled as F10.

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          Peter Mulholland
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          So that begs the question: Why does zero come after 9 on the keyboard instead of before 1?

          Pete

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          • A Ali Taghvajou

            Do any one know the philosophy of existing 12 function key F1-F12 on key board? why it is not 14 or 10? I searched and found it was 24 at first and Over time it reduced and now is 12. But Not Convinced, yet! Any Story or Reason?? :confused::confused:

            modified on Friday, May 20, 2011 8:50 AM

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            Chris Meech
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            Before there were PCs with keyboards, there were video terminals with keyboards. A lot of them that I remember had function keys on them. Most of the early VT, Wyse and even IBM terminals that I used to work with invariably had at least 10 function keys on them. :)

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            • A Ali Taghvajou

              Do any one know the philosophy of existing 12 function key F1-F12 on key board? why it is not 14 or 10? I searched and found it was 24 at first and Over time it reduced and now is 12. But Not Convinced, yet! Any Story or Reason?? :confused::confused:

              modified on Friday, May 20, 2011 8:50 AM

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              Lost User
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              The XT keyboard had 10 since that was all there was roomm for but most terminals had 12 because they had room so the AT keyboard ended up with 12 as well.

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              • P Peter Mulholland

                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                apprently

                :snigger: function is one of those words that I frequently swap the n and the c when typing altho, I can't remember doing it recently.

                Pete

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                realJSOP
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                I hate the keyboard I use at work. :/

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                • P Peter Mulholland

                  So that begs the question: Why does zero come after 9 on the keyboard instead of before 1?

                  Pete

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                  Gregory Gadow
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                  Peter Mulholland wrote:

                  Why does zero come after 9 on the keyboard instead of before 1?

                  That is actually pretty easy. The earliest typewriters lacked the 1 and 0 keys: typists would use a capital I or a lower case l for 1, and a capital O for 0. This was done to minimize material and production costs, and because the glyphs could easily be made using existing keys and so were considered redundant. There was no exclamation point, either: that was made with a three key combination of single quote, backspace, period. A key for zero started to become common in the 60s. Rather than force millions of typists to relearn their trade, the zero was placed above the O, which is how it came to be at the end of the list. The one key did not become common until the mid 70s; there was much variation with what Shift-1 would be, with the backtick, twiddle and exclamation point being used on different models. Eventually, the exclamation point became standard.

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                  • L leppie

                    Ali Taghvajou wrote:

                    Any Story or Reason?

                    CPU architecture proved that RISC is superior to CISC.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    All modern architectures are both. MMX, SSE, on die GPU (especially with openCL) are CISC type features. Die sizes got big enough to have the best of both worlds.

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • W Wayne Gaylard

                      What do you use the Compose key for now then ?

                      ...and I have extensive experience writing computer code, including OIC, BTW, BRB, IMHO, LMAO, ROFL, TTYL.....

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      I don't. I don't know what it's for.

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                      • A Ali Taghvajou

                        Do any one know the philosophy of existing 12 function key F1-F12 on key board? why it is not 14 or 10? I searched and found it was 24 at first and Over time it reduced and now is 12. But Not Convinced, yet! Any Story or Reason?? :confused::confused:

                        modified on Friday, May 20, 2011 8:50 AM

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Oh, yeah, I recall that there was a function key arrangement of two columns of five keys to the left of the main keypad... where's a picture? Ah, here[^] we go.

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