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Happy Memorial Day, America

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  • O Oakman

    fat_boy wrote:

    Why should you mistake lack of national prode with cowardice?

    rationalization

    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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    You must realise that the US is a particularly odd country. Its the only social experiemtn thats actually lasted. Of course you love your country, you have to. You all have to. You all went there form all over Europe in order to MAKE a better country! Of COURSE you have a greater interest in it! Us cynical old Europeans who didnt leave slowly changed our countries politics and systems to something not overly different from yours, but we also live in a very small place with many countries very close to each other and sharing languages customs and aliances across boarders. So what is a country to us? Its a line on a map. I am as close to any other European as I am to any English person. Why should I not defend THEIR country over mine if I felt it was in the right? Many Germans tried to kill Hitler you know. There were 25 attempts on his life in the 10 years he was in power. Thats one every 5 months Germans tried to kill him. What were they doing? Defending their country or doing the right thing even if it meant initialy a loss for Germany? Think about where you come from, why you are there, and think how differently we can feel over here. :)

    Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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      He's consistent but so is d** s***.

      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP

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      Seriously. You have been consistently unpleasant to me for years purely, I assume, because I question the verity of GW. Why should I defend you and the land you inhabit given your extremely unpleasant attitude towards me? I bet you cant come up with anything and will just ignore this post because of the very obviousness of what I am pointing out to you and what it says about you as a person.

      Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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        You must realise that the US is a particularly odd country. Its the only social experiemtn thats actually lasted. Of course you love your country, you have to. You all have to. You all went there form all over Europe in order to MAKE a better country! Of COURSE you have a greater interest in it! Us cynical old Europeans who didnt leave slowly changed our countries politics and systems to something not overly different from yours, but we also live in a very small place with many countries very close to each other and sharing languages customs and aliances across boarders. So what is a country to us? Its a line on a map. I am as close to any other European as I am to any English person. Why should I not defend THEIR country over mine if I felt it was in the right? Many Germans tried to kill Hitler you know. There were 25 attempts on his life in the 10 years he was in power. Thats one every 5 months Germans tried to kill him. What were they doing? Defending their country or doing the right thing even if it meant initialy a loss for Germany? Think about where you come from, why you are there, and think how differently we can feel over here. :)

        Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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        I cannot comment on all 25 attempts but I do know that at least 12 of the attempts on Hitler by Germans (as opposed to non axis countries) were performed by Germans who had no trouble with the Politics but only with his leadership. von Stauffenberg - probably the most Famous attempt, was not against his policies but his direction/interferance in the way the war was being fought As for defending another country over your own, this is your right as an individual, however this grants the right for your own country to treat you as a traitor and punish you accordingly An i lugh at this sharing accross borders i europe, as this was maily achieved though the use of force

        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          I cannot comment on all 25 attempts but I do know that at least 12 of the attempts on Hitler by Germans (as opposed to non axis countries) were performed by Germans who had no trouble with the Politics but only with his leadership. von Stauffenberg - probably the most Famous attempt, was not against his policies but his direction/interferance in the way the war was being fought As for defending another country over your own, this is your right as an individual, however this grants the right for your own country to treat you as a traitor and punish you accordingly An i lugh at this sharing accross borders i europe, as this was maily achieved though the use of force

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

          An i lugh at this sharing accross borders i europe, as this was maily achieved though the use of force

          Or because the people were there long before an arbitrary line was drawn?

          Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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            Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

            An i lugh at this sharing accross borders i europe, as this was maily achieved though the use of force

            Or because the people were there long before an arbitrary line was drawn?

            Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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            actually most borders were set by either natural features such as rivers etc or by conquests, only countries that were divided up by waring factions had these arbitrary borders set, swo if you dont like them you have to defend against them

            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              Go onm tell me why you know better than me. Its all very well saying you are an expert but how about backing it up with some facts?

              Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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              fat_boy wrote:

              Go onm tell me why you know better than me. Its all very well saying you are an expert but how about backing it up with some facts?

              So you think that the subjects that I mentioned can be covered in a forum posting?

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                actually most borders were set by either natural features such as rivers etc or by conquests, only countries that were divided up by waring factions had these arbitrary borders set, swo if you dont like them you have to defend against them

                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                I know. What I was saying is what makes 'sharing across boarders' so evident in Europe is that despite the lines drawn on the map the people who live in that geographical zone share culture across those borders. Look at the language mixing across borders in Europe as an example. Italians who speak Austrian, French who speak Italian. French who speak Catalan, Belgiums who speak Dutch and German. and on and on and on.

                Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                  fat_boy wrote:

                  Go onm tell me why you know better than me. Its all very well saying you are an expert but how about backing it up with some facts?

                  So you think that the subjects that I mentioned can be covered in a forum posting?

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                  You have enough gigs and enough time, no?

                  Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                    You have enough gigs and enough time, no?

                    Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                    Which suggests you don't understand the subjects.

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                      Which suggests you don't understand the subjects.

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                      Go away, when you have something to contribute, you can come back.

                      Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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