Default member names (?)
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So why is it "None of these attributes are..." correct? Isn't "none" another form for "not one"? That would make the sentence "Not one of these attributes is..." correct, wouldn't it?
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So why is it "None of these attributes are..." correct? Isn't "none" another form for "not one"? That would make the sentence "Not one of these attributes is..." correct, wouldn't it?
None can be applicable as a plural. If there is one option - "It is not the one I want". For two items - "Neither is the one I want" or "Neither are the ones I want". For many items - "None is the one I want" or "None are the ones I want". I was, originally, indicating the plurality of the attributes, for there were many attributes, where I was not implying one of a group, but many or all of the group, therefore ARE was correct in this case.
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None can be applicable as a plural. If there is one option - "It is not the one I want". For two items - "Neither is the one I want" or "Neither are the ones I want". For many items - "None is the one I want" or "None are the ones I want". I was, originally, indicating the plurality of the attributes, for there were many attributes, where I was not implying one of a group, but many or all of the group, therefore ARE was correct in this case.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Thanks for the grammar lesson :thumbsup: :-D
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None can be applicable as a plural. If there is one option - "It is not the one I want". For two items - "Neither is the one I want" or "Neither are the ones I want". For many items - "None is the one I want" or "None are the ones I want". I was, originally, indicating the plurality of the attributes, for there were many attributes, where I was not implying one of a group, but many or all of the group, therefore ARE was correct in this case.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Not true. The subject for the verb is "none", not "attributes". As another poster said "none" is equivalent to "not one" so a singular verb is required.
Phil
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Why do we see a number of users with names like "Member 7845347"? Is that some kind of default for users who don't supply a proper name when they sign up? If so then I suggest the default is changed to something like "Idiot troll xxxx". It would be more self-documenting and useful to the other members here.
Phil
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Should change a script which will generate a username...which may encourage the new user to choose one for themself. Unless they want to be known as Fardsnibble. (But don't use a dictionary-based generator like AOL did for their temps. Few would want to be known as CowboyEnema, as AOL found out.)
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Why do we see a number of users with names like "Member 7845347"? Is that some kind of default for users who don't supply a proper name when they sign up? If so then I suggest the default is changed to something like "Idiot troll xxxx". It would be more self-documenting and useful to the other members here.
Phil
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Phil J Pearson wrote:
If so then I suggest the default is changed to something like "Idiot troll xxxx". It would be more...useful to the other members here.
How so? What is it that the latter would tel you that would not also be evident from the former?
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Not true. The subject for the verb is "none", not "attributes". As another poster said "none" is equivalent to "not one" so a singular verb is required.
Phil
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No, "are" is correct. Just read it without the "attributes". 'None of these are particularly complimentary.' as opposed to 'None of these is particularly complimentary.' Which one sounds right?
Whichever you think "sounds" right the fact is that "is" is correct.
Phil
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Whichever you think "sounds" right the fact is that "is" is correct.
Phil
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None can be applicable as a plural. If there is one option - "It is not the one I want". For two items - "Neither is the one I want" or "Neither are the ones I want". For many items - "None is the one I want" or "None are the ones I want". I was, originally, indicating the plurality of the attributes, for there were many attributes, where I was not implying one of a group, but many or all of the group, therefore ARE was correct in this case.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
For two items - "Neither is the one I want" or "Neither are the ones I want".
For many items - "None is the one I want" or "None are the ones I want".Yikes, talk about misrepresentation! The (mildly illogical but rule-by-usage) plurality only applies if there is plurality in the requirement, i.e: -- I want two particular items. -- There are five items here. -- None of the five items are the two items I want. But that doesn't apply to your original statement.
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