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  • W wizardzz

    If it uses electricity, it can be hacked.

    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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    CMullikin
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    I once hacked a toaster.... into pieces.

    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill

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    • T twohowlingdogs

      So my sister was at the store and the sales person tried to convince her that a cellphone cannot be hacked. Before I reply, I want to make sure I have this right. A smart phone is like a mini-computer. A computer can be hacked therefore a smart phone can be hacked. A normal (what else do you call them? Dumb?) cellphone can't be hacked. There isn't anything to hack! I'm sure the signal can be intercepted but that's not hacking. This was brought up because there were spam postings to our family group site from my brother who said he's only been using his iPhone for checking email. I don't think someone hacked his cellphone. They hacked his email account. Big difference there. But that's besides the point of my question which was hacking a phone.

      If you know what I mean...and I think you do...

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      LloydA111
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      I work in the embedded systems/hardware area (see my profile) and yes, phones can be hacked. However, it is VERY device specific etc.


      See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
      So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

      The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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      • W wizardzz

        If it uses electricity, it can be hacked.

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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        LloydA111
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        I would like to see how you could hack a battery and an LED. ;)


        See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
        So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

        The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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        • L LloydA111

          I would like to see how you could hack a battery and an LED. ;)


          See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
          So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

          The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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          wizardzz
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          Isn't circuit bending technically a hardware hack? Instead of just remaining on, you can make the LED blink using a timer, react to sounds and other input, etc.

          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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          • W wizardzz

            Isn't circuit bending technically a hardware hack? Instead of just remaining on, you can make the LED blink using a timer, react to sounds and other input, etc.

            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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            LloydA111
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            wizardzz wrote:

            Instead of just remaining on, you can make the LED blink using a timer, react to sounds and other input, etc.

            Correct, but this is just electronics, not hacking. ;P


            See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
            So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

            The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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            • L LloydA111

              wizardzz wrote:

              Instead of just remaining on, you can make the LED blink using a timer, react to sounds and other input, etc.

              Correct, but this is just electronics, not hacking. ;P


              See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
              So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

              The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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              wizardzz
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              Then any hardware hack is going to be "just electronics" then.

              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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              • W wizardzz

                Then any hardware hack is going to be "just electronics" then.

                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                LloydA111
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                wizardzz wrote:

                Then any hardware hack is going to be "just electronics" then.

                Not always, for example, I would class modifying the code in a microcontroller (for example) a hack (mainly if it was one you did not program yourself).


                See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                • L LloydA111

                  wizardzz wrote:

                  Then any hardware hack is going to be "just electronics" then.

                  Not always, for example, I would class modifying the code in a microcontroller (for example) a hack (mainly if it was one you did not program yourself).


                  See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                  So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                  The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                  wizardzz
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                  Wouldn't that technically be a software hack?

                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                  • W wizardzz

                    Wouldn't that technically be a software hack?

                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                    LloydA111
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                    Technically I suppose it would :) Now I think about it, modifiying/replacing something on a circuit board would be more of a hardware hack.


                    See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                    So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                    The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                    • L LloydA111

                      Technically I suppose it would :) Now I think about it, modifiying/replacing something on a circuit board would be more of a hardware hack.


                      See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                      So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                      The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                      wizardzz
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                      Could those 2 things be a battery and an LED possibly? ;) I thought of a battery/LED hack btw.

                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                      • W wizardzz

                        Could those 2 things be a battery and an LED possibly? ;) I thought of a battery/LED hack btw.

                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                        LloydA111
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                        wizardzz wrote:

                        I thought of a battery/LED hack btw.

                        Go on? :)


                        See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                        So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                        The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                        • L LloydA111

                          wizardzz wrote:

                          I thought of a battery/LED hack btw.

                          Go on? :)


                          See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                          So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                          The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                          wizardzz
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                          One could fill up the inside of an LED with Acetylene and use it as an ignition device for something much more malicious.

                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                          • W wizardzz

                            One could fill up the inside of an LED with Acetylene and use it as an ignition device for something much more malicious.

                            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                            LloydA111
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                            Good luck with that! It would be a lot of effort to get inside the LED, especially as there is little space inside the LED anyway.


                            See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                            So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                            The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                            • W wizardzz

                              You never said what size LED ;P

                              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                              LloydA111
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                              Haha true :)


                              See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                              So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                              The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                              • L LloydA111

                                Good luck with that! It would be a lot of effort to get inside the LED, especially as there is little space inside the LED anyway.


                                See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                                So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                                The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                                wizardzz
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                                You never said what size LED ;P

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                                • T twohowlingdogs

                                  So my sister was at the store and the sales person tried to convince her that a cellphone cannot be hacked. Before I reply, I want to make sure I have this right. A smart phone is like a mini-computer. A computer can be hacked therefore a smart phone can be hacked. A normal (what else do you call them? Dumb?) cellphone can't be hacked. There isn't anything to hack! I'm sure the signal can be intercepted but that's not hacking. This was brought up because there were spam postings to our family group site from my brother who said he's only been using his iPhone for checking email. I don't think someone hacked his cellphone. They hacked his email account. Big difference there. But that's besides the point of my question which was hacking a phone.

                                  If you know what I mean...and I think you do...

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                                  LloydA111
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                                  twohowlingdogs wrote:

                                  So my sister was at the store and the sales person tried to convince her that a cellphone cannot be hacked.

                                  In addition to my other comment, this is just a typical sales person who either does not know what they are talking about (most likely) or is simply trying to convince her that any phones she buys from them are safe.


                                  See if you can crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f
                                  So far, no one seems to have cracked this!

                                  The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                                  • G gavindon

                                    the most common way to hack a phone would be rogue code in an app that you downloaded. For example, I know from personal experience(as an Android developer) that I could write any app, say a card game, and bury code in it that would read every incoming and outgoing message that phone handles and message a copy of that to any number I specify. You as the user would not know it was being done for at least a month until you got your bill with the messages on it. and if you have unlimited text messaging(a lot do) then its likely you might not notice then. While that scenario is not a true hack as such, it gives you the idea of what can be done.

                                    Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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                                    clientSurfer
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                                    ROTGDMFFLMGDMFAO Brilliant as usual gavindon.... And let's all not forget that all cell phones regardless of their IQs actually use RADIO WAVES broadcasted from towers... The ultimate cell phone hacker will always be your local neighborhood HAM radio operator, folks...!

                                    "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon  Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. -gavindon

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