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    So I go home at lunchtime, having a shed delivered to my allotment was the reason I was already leaving early. Get their, shed built, bloke who owns the field comes around and shows a letter he has received from the council. They claim 6'x4' sheds on the allotment are a substantial and permanent structure and therefore need planning permission. We have been given 28 days to pull them down. All because some utter cunt who lives nearby doesn't like to see people enjoying themselves and made a complaint. EDIT: I may have made a slight error with my units, but I think I got away with it.

    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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      So I go home at lunchtime, having a shed delivered to my allotment was the reason I was already leaving early. Get their, shed built, bloke who owns the field comes around and shows a letter he has received from the council. They claim 6'x4' sheds on the allotment are a substantial and permanent structure and therefore need planning permission. We have been given 28 days to pull them down. All because some utter cunt who lives nearby doesn't like to see people enjoying themselves and made a complaint. EDIT: I may have made a slight error with my units, but I think I got away with it.

      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

      modified on Wednesday, July 6, 2011 10:29 AM

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      Ian Shlasko
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      Then I guess you'll be Arthur "No Sheds" Jackson[^].

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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        So I go home at lunchtime, having a shed delivered to my allotment was the reason I was already leaving early. Get their, shed built, bloke who owns the field comes around and shows a letter he has received from the council. They claim 6'x4' sheds on the allotment are a substantial and permanent structure and therefore need planning permission. We have been given 28 days to pull them down. All because some utter cunt who lives nearby doesn't like to see people enjoying themselves and made a complaint. EDIT: I may have made a slight error with my units, but I think I got away with it.

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

        modified on Wednesday, July 6, 2011 10:29 AM

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        ChrisElston wrote:

        They claim 6"x4" sheds on the allotment are a substantial and permanent structure and therefore need planning permission.

        That's crazy - I mean, it's smaller than a house brick. :laugh:

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          ChrisElston wrote:

          They claim 6"x4" sheds on the allotment are a substantial and permanent structure and therefore need planning permission.

          That's crazy - I mean, it's smaller than a house brick. :laugh:

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          fjdiewornncalwe
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          I was going to say the same basic thing...

          I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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            So I go home at lunchtime, having a shed delivered to my allotment was the reason I was already leaving early. Get their, shed built, bloke who owns the field comes around and shows a letter he has received from the council. They claim 6'x4' sheds on the allotment are a substantial and permanent structure and therefore need planning permission. We have been given 28 days to pull them down. All because some utter cunt who lives nearby doesn't like to see people enjoying themselves and made a complaint. EDIT: I may have made a slight error with my units, but I think I got away with it.

            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

            modified on Wednesday, July 6, 2011 10:29 AM

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            NSALG [^] have recently looked into this.

            The Chairman and the National Secretary, NSALG have argued for some 20 years that planning permission for sheds, greenhouses and poly-tunnels on allotment sites is NOT required. The Legal Consultant has endorsed this argument, citing the High Court Case CROWBOROUGH PARISH COUNCIL - v - SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND WEALDEN DISTRICT COUNCIL [1980] Property & Compensation Reports, 229, High Court (Queen’s Bench) as authority NSALG sought Counsel’s Opinion on this issue, and is delighted to say that Counsel has confirmed the opinion of the Secretary and Chairman; and confirmed the opinion of the Legal Consultant that the Crowborough case is authority for the premiss: Planning Permission is NOT required for sheds, and/or greenhouses on an allotment plot! Please note: a shed or greenhouse over the standard size of 8 x 6 (available from most garden and DIY centres) that require foundations or are connected to services, might be construed as a permanent structure..

            It will be remembered that Issue 1/2010 of Allotment & Leisure Gardener had an article which commenced examination of the controversy as to whether Planning Permission is required for sheds, greenhouses and polytunnels on an allotment plot. Following advice from NSALG to Parish Councils in Hertfordshire, Sussex and South Wales, the related District Councils have revoked the insistence that such Planning Permission is required. The foregoing confirms the previously published opinion of NSALG (15 July 2009) that Planning Permission is not required for sheds, greenhouses and poly-tunnels.

            Contact them, they're really very useful!

            Rhys "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"

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              NSALG [^] have recently looked into this.

              The Chairman and the National Secretary, NSALG have argued for some 20 years that planning permission for sheds, greenhouses and poly-tunnels on allotment sites is NOT required. The Legal Consultant has endorsed this argument, citing the High Court Case CROWBOROUGH PARISH COUNCIL - v - SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND WEALDEN DISTRICT COUNCIL [1980] Property & Compensation Reports, 229, High Court (Queen’s Bench) as authority NSALG sought Counsel’s Opinion on this issue, and is delighted to say that Counsel has confirmed the opinion of the Secretary and Chairman; and confirmed the opinion of the Legal Consultant that the Crowborough case is authority for the premiss: Planning Permission is NOT required for sheds, and/or greenhouses on an allotment plot! Please note: a shed or greenhouse over the standard size of 8 x 6 (available from most garden and DIY centres) that require foundations or are connected to services, might be construed as a permanent structure..

              It will be remembered that Issue 1/2010 of Allotment & Leisure Gardener had an article which commenced examination of the controversy as to whether Planning Permission is required for sheds, greenhouses and polytunnels on an allotment plot. Following advice from NSALG to Parish Councils in Hertfordshire, Sussex and South Wales, the related District Councils have revoked the insistence that such Planning Permission is required. The foregoing confirms the previously published opinion of NSALG (15 July 2009) that Planning Permission is not required for sheds, greenhouses and poly-tunnels.

              Contact them, they're really very useful!

              Rhys "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"

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              Thank you. I shall pass this on to the farmer who owns the field. He was going to the farmer's union so may have come across similar himself. I was at school with the editor of the local paper, so he is ready and waiting should they not back down.

              Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                So I go home at lunchtime, having a shed delivered to my allotment was the reason I was already leaving early. Get their, shed built, bloke who owns the field comes around and shows a letter he has received from the council. They claim 6'x4' sheds on the allotment are a substantial and permanent structure and therefore need planning permission. We have been given 28 days to pull them down. All because some utter cunt who lives nearby doesn't like to see people enjoying themselves and made a complaint. EDIT: I may have made a slight error with my units, but I think I got away with it.

                Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

                modified on Wednesday, July 6, 2011 10:29 AM

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                Somewhat more seriously than my last post here, have you thought about putting it on wheels? I suggest this because many years ago a guy I knew put a chicken coop in his back yard. A neighbour complained, and he got the same 'permanent structure' hassle, so he jacked the whole thing up onto a pair of small girders with steel wheels. Once it became moveable, it could not be a permanent structure. See here for a general idea.[^] I don't know if your shed is constructed in the same manner, such that it would permit this treatment, but it surely would be nice to present one or two fingers to the complainant.

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                  Somewhat more seriously than my last post here, have you thought about putting it on wheels? I suggest this because many years ago a guy I knew put a chicken coop in his back yard. A neighbour complained, and he got the same 'permanent structure' hassle, so he jacked the whole thing up onto a pair of small girders with steel wheels. Once it became moveable, it could not be a permanent structure. See here for a general idea.[^] I don't know if your shed is constructed in the same manner, such that it would permit this treatment, but it surely would be nice to present one or two fingers to the complainant.

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                  Sheds typically have much heavier stuff in them than 5-10lbs birds...

                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    So I go home at lunchtime, having a shed delivered to my allotment was the reason I was already leaving early. Get their, shed built, bloke who owns the field comes around and shows a letter he has received from the council. They claim 6'x4' sheds on the allotment are a substantial and permanent structure and therefore need planning permission. We have been given 28 days to pull them down. All because some utter cunt who lives nearby doesn't like to see people enjoying themselves and made a complaint. EDIT: I may have made a slight error with my units, but I think I got away with it.

                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

                    modified on Wednesday, July 6, 2011 10:29 AM

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                    Simple, put small wheels on the shed. Instantly it is not a permenant structure. :)

                    ============================== Nothing to say.

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