Singing and dancing for hours
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I had lined up three interviews tomorrow. One wanted to reschedule because they want to interview me for two hours and it wouldn't fit with the schedule I'd given them. Some VP, or so I'm told. The others; Half hour phone interview at one company. One and a half hour interview, wherein I'll have two individual interviews and then a team facing me down all at another company. The usual crap. At least it isn't one of those day-long interviews where they shuttle you to about eight different venues. I haven't had one of those yet. Interviews are like auditions. "Just read from the script Mr. McNulty, and could you try that once more with a little feeling? Your motivation is anything but money...you may start when ready." I've had years now where the group interview is the norm and an hour and a half is about average for length of interview. Is this the norm for others?
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I had lined up three interviews tomorrow. One wanted to reschedule because they want to interview me for two hours and it wouldn't fit with the schedule I'd given them. Some VP, or so I'm told. The others; Half hour phone interview at one company. One and a half hour interview, wherein I'll have two individual interviews and then a team facing me down all at another company. The usual crap. At least it isn't one of those day-long interviews where they shuttle you to about eight different venues. I haven't had one of those yet. Interviews are like auditions. "Just read from the script Mr. McNulty, and could you try that once more with a little feeling? Your motivation is anything but money...you may start when ready." I've had years now where the group interview is the norm and an hour and a half is about average for length of interview. Is this the norm for others?
_____________________________ Give a man a mug, he drinks for a day. Teach a man to mug...
I don't care if it's the norm, more then 2 hours is too much and should be divided anyway. Anyone not willing to do the interview after working hours is likely to be declined as I will have the feeling they're not 'really' interested anyway (read: How can you expect me to invest time in your company if you're not willing to do the same, that, and I can't take the day of for each little interview I get)
V.
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I had lined up three interviews tomorrow. One wanted to reschedule because they want to interview me for two hours and it wouldn't fit with the schedule I'd given them. Some VP, or so I'm told. The others; Half hour phone interview at one company. One and a half hour interview, wherein I'll have two individual interviews and then a team facing me down all at another company. The usual crap. At least it isn't one of those day-long interviews where they shuttle you to about eight different venues. I haven't had one of those yet. Interviews are like auditions. "Just read from the script Mr. McNulty, and could you try that once more with a little feeling? Your motivation is anything but money...you may start when ready." I've had years now where the group interview is the norm and an hour and a half is about average for length of interview. Is this the norm for others?
_____________________________ Give a man a mug, he drinks for a day. Teach a man to mug...
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I don't care if it's the norm, more then 2 hours is too much and should be divided anyway. Anyone not willing to do the interview after working hours is likely to be declined as I will have the feeling they're not 'really' interested anyway (read: How can you expect me to invest time in your company if you're not willing to do the same, that, and I can't take the day of for each little interview I get)
V.
That's especially problematic with large companies (+5000 employees). I once had to go through a selection exam and 4 rounds of interviews (about 2 hours each). There were initially about 100 candidates and I was one of the final five after two rounds. But, management decided to take exams of another 100 potential candidates. To make things worse, the engineer responsible for the selection didn't foresee this and already planned a holiday for 2 weeks. After he came back he decided to start from scratch, so I had to go over there two more times. :sigh: A smaller company simply can't afford to waste so that much time and energy on interviews. Usually you get to speak to people who also have to do their real job afterwards, they're not likely to take interviews for show. The only reason why I bared with it was because getting a job like that means you're probably set for life.
Giraffes are not real.
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That's especially problematic with large companies (+5000 employees). I once had to go through a selection exam and 4 rounds of interviews (about 2 hours each). There were initially about 100 candidates and I was one of the final five after two rounds. But, management decided to take exams of another 100 potential candidates. To make things worse, the engineer responsible for the selection didn't foresee this and already planned a holiday for 2 weeks. After he came back he decided to start from scratch, so I had to go over there two more times. :sigh: A smaller company simply can't afford to waste so that much time and energy on interviews. Usually you get to speak to people who also have to do their real job afterwards, they're not likely to take interviews for show. The only reason why I bared with it was because getting a job like that means you're probably set for life.
Giraffes are not real.
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He's still waiting for the knockout rounds.
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No I didn't. :rolleyes: Ironically, the HR chick told me they were somewhat impressed because I was the only one without a higher degree who made it this far. I was studying my ass off at home, but in the end I didn't make the cut. I would've probably caused a nuclear disaster anyway, so I'm already over it. :laugh:
Giraffes are not real.
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No I didn't. :rolleyes: Ironically, the HR chick told me they were somewhat impressed because I was the only one without a higher degree who made it this far. I was studying my ass off at home, but in the end I didn't make the cut. I would've probably caused a nuclear disaster anyway, so I'm already over it. :laugh:
Giraffes are not real.
0bx wrote:
the HR chick
There's your problem. HR She-devils don't like being described as anything other than Daughter of Lucifer.
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No I didn't. :rolleyes: Ironically, the HR chick told me they were somewhat impressed because I was the only one without a higher degree who made it this far. I was studying my ass off at home, but in the end I didn't make the cut. I would've probably caused a nuclear disaster anyway, so I'm already over it. :laugh:
Giraffes are not real.
0bx wrote:
the HR chick
Those are mostly the people who advise against hiring me, I know this upfront during the interview when they start interpreting an answer as something you didn't meant or say and nothing you say or do to clarify changes their opinion. It even goes as far as them putting words in your mouth you never said. :doh:
V.
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I had lined up three interviews tomorrow. One wanted to reschedule because they want to interview me for two hours and it wouldn't fit with the schedule I'd given them. Some VP, or so I'm told. The others; Half hour phone interview at one company. One and a half hour interview, wherein I'll have two individual interviews and then a team facing me down all at another company. The usual crap. At least it isn't one of those day-long interviews where they shuttle you to about eight different venues. I haven't had one of those yet. Interviews are like auditions. "Just read from the script Mr. McNulty, and could you try that once more with a little feeling? Your motivation is anything but money...you may start when ready." I've had years now where the group interview is the norm and an hour and a half is about average for length of interview. Is this the norm for others?
_____________________________ Give a man a mug, he drinks for a day. Teach a man to mug...
last two jobs I have had have been group interview and lasted one hour +. the three interviews before that were as well but I didn't get those jobs.
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0bx wrote:
the HR chick
Those are mostly the people who advise against hiring me, I know this upfront during the interview when they start interpreting an answer as something you didn't meant or say and nothing you say or do to clarify changes their opinion. It even goes as far as them putting words in your mouth you never said. :doh:
V.
I don't think I've ever had that situation. But it would be a massive red flag. HR is usually the big road block. It is an art getting by them to get to the hiring manager.
_____________________________ Give a man a mug, he drinks for a day. Teach a man to mug...
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0bx wrote:
the HR chick
Those are mostly the people who advise against hiring me, I know this upfront during the interview when they start interpreting an answer as something you didn't meant or say and nothing you say or do to clarify changes their opinion. It even goes as far as them putting words in your mouth you never said. :doh:
V.
Yeah, in this case she just did administration and didn't have any role in the decision; which is how it should be. Okay, if you're going into sales or consultancy, I understand you have to show you can sell yourself and they might as well let you try to convince a monkey. But for a mere technical position it's just stupid. Those wrinkly fat company psychologists in HR are the worst, those dinosaurs of failing 80's management from which everybody knows they are full of crap. One time, one of those Greek oracles asked me why I switched from science to multimedia when I was in highschool. In HIGHSCHOOL! *Oh, no you got me! When I was 17 years old, I rather fooled around in Photoshop and Flash instead of solving differential equations. If only I knew how relevant this was going to be eleven years later. Are you going to analyse my handwriting and read my palm now, or do you have enough information?* :doh:
Giraffes are not real.