This pisses me off, lazy stupid dependent people [modified]
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He has type 2 diabetes, its bought on by bad diet. He wasnt born with diabetes, he caused it. Equally,by adapting his diet he can alleviate the symptoms.
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Eric__V wrote:
He has type 2 diabetes, it's brought on by bad diet. He wasn't born with diabetes, he caused it.
Silly me, of course there is no inherited disposition to type 2 diabetes. :rolleyes: We all come off the assembly line with identical metabolisms. One cause for all ...
Eric__V wrote:
Equally,by adapting his diet he can alleviate the symptoms.
... and one cure for all. Except, the medics stated that he couldn't.
ict558 - a Coward and a Fool. Dalek Dave & Hokum (Therefore it must be so, alas.)
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ict558 wrote:
You have to admire the hack's ability to tailor the story so as to trigger the required knee jerk response. Played you like a fiddle.
Wrong. I have been following this guys story for many months. For example, he comes fomr Portsmouth. Somethign I learned the first time this came to light. Also, he has started intenetionally getting fatter in order to pass the BMI limit set down by his local health authority in order to qualify for the gastric band. See, I know rather more about this story than you assume. :)
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Eric__V wrote:
Wrong.
No I'm not, I read the comments to the Telegraph's earlier story on this case. You've been cloned.
Eric__V wrote:
I have been following this guys story for many months. For example, he comes fomr Portsmouth. Somethign I learned the first time this came to light.
Portsmouth, you say? Well, that certainly shows the whole affair in a new light.
Eric__V wrote:
Also, he has started intenetionally getting fatter in order to pass the BMI limit set down by his local health authority in order to qualify for the gastric band.
And have you any proof of that? Links?
Eric__V wrote:
I know rather more about this story than you assume.
Mr. Bond.
ict558 - a Coward and a Fool. Dalek Dave & Hokum (Therefore it must be so, alas.)
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Thanks, you just confirmed what I always thought, exercise should be taken in moderate doses. :)
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Eric__V wrote:
you just confirmed what I always thought, exercise should be taken in moderate doses.
But I didn't run for exercise, I ran for enjoyment. So, if I get a 'bad hip' in old age, should I get surgery time?
ict558 - a Coward and a Fool. Dalek Dave & Hokum (Therefore it must be so, alas.)
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Eric__V wrote:
He has type 2 diabetes, it's brought on by bad diet. He wasn't born with diabetes, he caused it.
Silly me, of course there is no inherited disposition to type 2 diabetes. :rolleyes: We all come off the assembly line with identical metabolisms. One cause for all ...
Eric__V wrote:
Equally,by adapting his diet he can alleviate the symptoms.
... and one cure for all. Except, the medics stated that he couldn't.
ict558 - a Coward and a Fool. Dalek Dave & Hokum (Therefore it must be so, alas.)
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Eric__V wrote:
Wrong.
No I'm not, I read the comments to the Telegraph's earlier story on this case. You've been cloned.
Eric__V wrote:
I have been following this guys story for many months. For example, he comes fomr Portsmouth. Somethign I learned the first time this came to light.
Portsmouth, you say? Well, that certainly shows the whole affair in a new light.
Eric__V wrote:
Also, he has started intenetionally getting fatter in order to pass the BMI limit set down by his local health authority in order to qualify for the gastric band.
And have you any proof of that? Links?
Eric__V wrote:
I know rather more about this story than you assume.
Mr. Bond.
ict558 - a Coward and a Fool. Dalek Dave & Hokum (Therefore it must be so, alas.)
ict558 wrote:
You've been cloned.
Really? There are two of me? ;P
ict558 wrote:
Portsmouth, you say? Well, that certainly shows the whole affair in a new light.
If you knew Portsmouth...
ict558 wrote:
And have you any proof of that? Links?
No, it was a TV news item some months back.
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Eric__V wrote:
you just confirmed what I always thought, exercise should be taken in moderate doses.
But I didn't run for exercise, I ran for enjoyment. So, if I get a 'bad hip' in old age, should I get surgery time?
ict558 - a Coward and a Fool. Dalek Dave & Hokum (Therefore it must be so, alas.)
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Sure, if you take too much it will kill blood sugar and give you a raging hunger. Question is, why put that much insulin in your body? After all, it is the diabetic who controls it.
Oakman wrote:
So he wasn't fat until he started using the medicine prescribed because he'd developed type 2 diabetes
You get type 2 diabetes from bad diet. (Unless some accident causes the pancreas to fail). Did you know though that this gut has been intentionally eating to get fat in order to pass the BMI limit set by his local health authority in order to qualify for the gastric band op?
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Eric__V wrote:
You get type 2 diabetes from bad diet. (Unless some accident causes the pancreas to fail).
The pathophysiology of the development of type II diabetes is quite complex but it's inaccurate to suggest that it's caused exclusively by 'bad diet' and it's completely wrong to suggest that it's caused by eating excess sugar as you mentioned in another post. Someone on long-term prednisone for inflammatory conditions could develop type II DM. Someone who is hypothyroid could develop type II DM. People with the right (or probably more appropriately, wrong) genetics can develop type II DM. I've seen plenty of skinny people who exercise, eat well, but their mother just happened to have type II diabetes and they've just happened to win the genetic lottery. Secondly, pancreatic failure is absolutely NOT the etiology of type II DM. You're thinking of type 1, which is characterized by the autoimmune destruction of pancreatic beta cells - type II DM can result in the eventual termination of pancreatic insulin production but that's an end stage consequence of the disease, not the cause. Thirdly, you're mad at the guy because you think he should take some personal responsibility for his fatness. That's fine, but in my experience the people who complain about personal responsibility live in a metaphorical ivory tower where telling someone to take personal responsibility actually makes a difference. In the real world, it's also possible that it might be better to intervene now, do the banding, and get this guy back to some form of social productivity so that he's not on endless disability/unemployment/welfare, doesn't get all the other expensive diseases that fat people get, and ends up being a net benefit to society instead of a drain.
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Damn it! Stop destroying a perfectly good rant with facts! :mad: :)
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ict558 wrote:
You've been cloned.
Really? There are two of me? ;P
ict558 wrote:
Portsmouth, you say? Well, that certainly shows the whole affair in a new light.
If you knew Portsmouth...
ict558 wrote:
And have you any proof of that? Links?
No, it was a TV news item some months back.
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Eric__V wrote:
There are two of me?
More - over 50!
Eric__V wrote:
If you knew Portsmouth...
Only to bypass - at speed.
Eric__V wrote:
No, it was a TV news item some months back.
I'll believe you. (But not the journalist.)
ict558 - a Coward and a Fool. Dalek Dave & Hokum (Therefore it must be so, alas.)
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ict558 wrote:
I ran for enjoyment.
Pleasure too should be taken in moderate doses, lest we forget what a bitch life is. :)
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