var abuse
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Ah, I wondered what happened to the generics bit on my OP How is it sloppy and lazy?
Coming from a C++ background, I feel it doesn't improve the readability of the code, particularly when used to accept a return value from a method. In my experience, those that like it overuse and abuse it. It was a mistake to add it to the C# language.
Pete
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Coming from a C++ background, I feel it doesn't improve the readability of the code, particularly when used to accept a return value from a method. In my experience, those that like it overuse and abuse it. It was a mistake to add it to the C# language.
Pete
I come from a C++ background too and I like var - I agree using it to accept a return value from a method is a poor use of it.
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And why? I can understand some cases in which you want to make code more compact, as
List myName = new List();
to use a
var myName = new List();
or as mentioned before in cases that you do not know the return type. But using always
varonly because of laziness, just pisses me of!The 'why' is because the type is already there in the line, so using var doesn't remove any information. Personally I only use it very rarely but that's a matter of style, I think it is fine when the type is in the line anyway (either as a new expression or an explicit cast:
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I'm so pissed of by
varabusers. They do not understand that are making code unreadable, for what, writingvarinstead ofstring? Having the same problems in your company? ex.var metadataValues = new List<object>();
foreach (var metadataDefName in metadataDefNames)
{
var name = metadataDefName;
// Search definition with the same name.
var metadata = metadataCollection.FirstOrDefault(
metadataDef => String.Equals(metadataDef.MetaData.Name, name, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase));
...Cheers!
Reason for my 1 vote: There is nothing wrong with that. If you need to get the type, just hover over the 'var' in the IDE.
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Or you are using ReSharper and tell it to autofix the "problems" in your code.
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Well put. Exactly why I do NOT use handholding tools like Reshaper. Clearly their definition of 'problems' is very subjective, and personally does not suite me. I write the code exactly how I want it!
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Reason for my 1 vote: There is nothing wrong with that. If you need to get the type, just hover over the 'var' in the IDE.
Meanwhile I'm reading the code I can't constantly hover the vars! Com'on, how can you say that??? :)
And this is the lounge, I'm not discussing about what should be a good practice, I lament about things that makes me piss off. -
Meanwhile I'm reading the code I can't constantly hover the vars! Com'on, how can you say that??? :)
And this is the lounge, I'm not discussing about what should be a good practice, I lament about things that makes me piss off.Mario Majcica wrote:
Meanwhile I'm reading the code I can't constantly hover the vars!
Use Reflector then :) If the code is well written, you should be able to infer the type while reading. What does get me is the person using 'var' instead of 'object', now that is silly. :)
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Coming from a C++ background, I feel it doesn't improve the readability of the code, particularly when used to accept a return value from a method. In my experience, those that like it overuse and abuse it. It was a mistake to add it to the C# language.
Pete
Peter Mulholland wrote:
It was a mistake to add it to the C# language.
C++ has it too now, it's called
auto.auto x = SomeFunc();
Regards, Nish
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Why? What is the point of repeating information?
Many people don't know what C#'s
varmeans. They incorrectly think it's not type-safe! :-)Regards, Nish
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Well put. Exactly why I do NOT use handholding tools like Reshaper. Clearly their definition of 'problems' is very subjective, and personally does not suite me. I write the code exactly how I want it!
leppie wrote:
I write the code exactly how I want it!
So the bugs are deliberate?
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Many people don't know what C#'s
varmeans. They incorrectly think it's not type-safe! :-)Regards, Nish
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I haven't looked at it enough to concern myself with whether or not it's type safe. I don't think it aids code readability, and I've never found a situation where I needed to use it.
Pete
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Reason for my 1 vote: There is nothing wrong with that. If you need to get the type, just hover over the 'var' in the IDE.
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Reason for my 1 vote: There is nothing wrong with that. If you need to get the type, just hover over the 'var' in the IDE.
I can't hover over it when it's printed on a page, posted in a message here, displayed by someone else on a big screen in a meeting, etc.
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I'm so pissed of by
varabusers. They do not understand that are making code unreadable, for what, writingvarinstead ofstring? Having the same problems in your company? ex.var metadataValues = new List<object>();
foreach (var metadataDefName in metadataDefNames)
{
var name = metadataDefName;
// Search definition with the same name.
var metadata = metadataCollection.FirstOrDefault(
metadataDef => String.Equals(metadataDef.MetaData.Name, name, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase));
...Cheers!
GAH! I don't need to see that when I first wake up in the morning! What were you thinking, man? Post it later in the day. :~ But I certainly agree with you.
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GAH! I don't need to see that when I first wake up in the morning! What were you thinking, man? Post it later in the day. :~ But I certainly agree with you.
Healing my frustrations here!
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leppie wrote:
I write the code exactly how I want it!
So the bugs are deliberate?
viaducting wrote:
So the bugs are deliberate?
What bugs? ;P But in reality, I loathe typing, so I try code correctly the first time. I dont mind spending 90% of my time figuring out the entire solution mentally. You type less, and debug almost never :) Or maybe that is just how I work :rolleyes:
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I haven't looked at it enough to concern myself with whether or not it's type safe. I don't think it aids code readability, and I've never found a situation where I needed to use it.
Pete
Peter Mulholland wrote:
I don't think it aids code readability, and I've never found a situation where I needed to use it.
You absolutely need it with anonymous types, and it's more than handy with LINQ where you know it's returning some collection but don't know or care what type it is.
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It's nice to be able to read the code without hovering the mouse over things. And one might not be in an IDE at the time.
BobJanova wrote:
It's nice to be able to read the code without hovering the mouse over things.
Knowing the type is not really necessary if the code is unambiguous. Just replace the type with some type 'Foo' with a property of 'Bar'. Now if we have 10 types, all with a property 'Bar', yeah then it gets shitty. :)
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It's VB creep: The bits of VB that mean that you don't have to think about what you are doing are slowly being introduced to C#. Coming soon: "On Error Resume Next" Then it will be time to go back to C++ because C# will be mostly used by lazy idiots who don't care a fig for maintenance.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Coming soon: "On Error Resume Next"
What do you mean "coming soon"? It's already there:
try { //some op } catch {}I did know a programmer that did just that, first thing he wrote in any method class etc was a try catch block in which he put all his code, and yes it had a empty catch oh and he was a ex-VB programmer too was soooo proud his code never threw exceptions
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