The UK House of Commons
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As well as wanting to be seen to be working, there is a serious overcrowding issue with the chambers. It was originally built for about 500 members, that number has increased to 650.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Interesting. I hope that wasn't some subtle humor coz if it were, it went right over my head.
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Interesting. I hope that wasn't some subtle humor coz if it were, it went right over my head.
No, tis a factoid. Mrs Wife and the girls had a 'backstage' tour from a friend about a month ago, this was one of many fascinating facts that came out. For example, the reason they're not allowed to cross the red lines during a debate is?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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As well as wanting to be seen to be working, there is a serious overcrowding issue with the chambers. It was originally built for about 500 members, that number has increased to 650.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Surprisingly, that turns out not to be the case. The Original Palace of Westminster was pretty much destroyed by a fire in 1834, and the existing building was built in it's place over the thirty years starting in 1840. The number of MPs in 1840 was 658, and the current number is 650 (and about 600 too many, if you ask me). Palace of Westminster history[^] Number of Westminster MPs[^]
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MPs will be MPs, anywhere. I was actually more interested in whether the accommodation was not well planned. Nagy Vilmos' reply suggests so.
Surprisingly, Nagy is wrong - I have addressed this in a reply to him!
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The Indian House of Commons (Lok Sabha) is in session again and I have been watching intermittently. I watch UK House of Commons in session on BBC news. I had also watched the Murdoch interrogation just recently. I wonder why is the UK's house so very congested. All the MPs seem to be sitting thigh to thigh and shoulder to shoulder. It looks very awkward and uncomfortable. They seem to be crammed. Of course, when its not as roomy as India's, MP's cannot sling punches and chairs. But jokes apart, seriously, why? Why is it like that?
Unlike a lot of parliaments, which are 'in the round', the UK Parliament is a confrontational 'You and us' shape. Government on one side, opposition on the other. The gap between the sides is two sword lengths so that on cannot fight in the chamber. It is only a parliament when the Mace is present, when it is not there, it is a committee. (This is evident on budget day when it is removed and the budget is read out). The reason for it's crampedness is that it was deliberately designed to be so. For most of the time there are not many members present, but on big important votes, all are present and it is standing room only for the latecomers. The reason is that on the big votes, the atmosphere is tense and charged, making it openly more hostile between the sides and easier for the whips to get round and ensure the wets don't vote the wrong way.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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No, tis a factoid. Mrs Wife and the girls had a 'backstage' tour from a friend about a month ago, this was one of many fascinating facts that came out. For example, the reason they're not allowed to cross the red lines during a debate is?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
So they can't stab each other with a sword!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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Surprisingly, that turns out not to be the case. The Original Palace of Westminster was pretty much destroyed by a fire in 1834, and the existing building was built in it's place over the thirty years starting in 1840. The number of MPs in 1840 was 658, and the current number is 650 (and about 600 too many, if you ask me). Palace of Westminster history[^] Number of Westminster MPs[^]
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
Okay, my numbers are 100 years out. Rounding error. :-O
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Surprisingly, that turns out not to be the case. The Original Palace of Westminster was pretty much destroyed by a fire in 1834, and the existing building was built in it's place over the thirty years starting in 1840. The number of MPs in 1840 was 658, and the current number is 650 (and about 600 too many, if you ask me). Palace of Westminster history[^] Number of Westminster MPs[^]
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
Thanks.
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Unlike a lot of parliaments, which are 'in the round', the UK Parliament is a confrontational 'You and us' shape. Government on one side, opposition on the other. The gap between the sides is two sword lengths so that on cannot fight in the chamber. It is only a parliament when the Mace is present, when it is not there, it is a committee. (This is evident on budget day when it is removed and the budget is read out). The reason for it's crampedness is that it was deliberately designed to be so. For most of the time there are not many members present, but on big important votes, all are present and it is standing room only for the latecomers. The reason is that on the big votes, the atmosphere is tense and charged, making it openly more hostile between the sides and easier for the whips to get round and ensure the wets don't vote the wrong way.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Thanks. The last line looks quite funny but I guess that is what is the origin of the phrase "party issues a whip...".
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Thanks. The last line looks quite funny but I guess that is what is the origin of the phrase "party issues a whip...".
Without the whip system, it would be next to impossible for a government to get unpopular legislation through parliament.
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Without the whip system, it would be next to impossible for a government to get unpopular legislation through parliament.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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The Indian House of Commons (Lok Sabha) is in session again and I have been watching intermittently. I watch UK House of Commons in session on BBC news. I had also watched the Murdoch interrogation just recently. I wonder why is the UK's house so very congested. All the MPs seem to be sitting thigh to thigh and shoulder to shoulder. It looks very awkward and uncomfortable. They seem to be crammed. Of course, when its not as roomy as India's, MP's cannot sling punches and chairs. But jokes apart, seriously, why? Why is it like that?
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The Indian House of Commons (Lok Sabha) is in session again and I have been watching intermittently. I watch UK House of Commons in session on BBC news. I had also watched the Murdoch interrogation just recently. I wonder why is the UK's house so very congested. All the MPs seem to be sitting thigh to thigh and shoulder to shoulder. It looks very awkward and uncomfortable. They seem to be crammed. Of course, when its not as roomy as India's, MP's cannot sling punches and chairs. But jokes apart, seriously, why? Why is it like that?
It is called doughnuting - MP's cluster around whoever is speaking - they get their face on the telly, and it makes it look like there are lots of MP's attending
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Unlike a lot of parliaments, which are 'in the round', the UK Parliament is a confrontational 'You and us' shape. Government on one side, opposition on the other. The gap between the sides is two sword lengths so that on cannot fight in the chamber. It is only a parliament when the Mace is present, when it is not there, it is a committee. (This is evident on budget day when it is removed and the budget is read out). The reason for it's crampedness is that it was deliberately designed to be so. For most of the time there are not many members present, but on big important votes, all are present and it is standing room only for the latecomers. The reason is that on the big votes, the atmosphere is tense and charged, making it openly more hostile between the sides and easier for the whips to get round and ensure the wets don't vote the wrong way.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
No, it's crowded cos they're a bunch of fat, ugly users with no sense and too much power. :)
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There would be plenty of room if Eric Pickles wasn't there.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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There would be plenty of room if Eric Pickles wasn't there.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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Simple: They know the cameras are there and want to be seen on telly. Before the cameras started broadcasting, if you visited you were lucky to find a dozen in there - and some of those would be asleep.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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Public schools.
It always itches for the first week or so. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
That was an odd email:
Public schools.
It always itches for the first week or so.In context, it makes sense. Out of context, though...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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That was an odd email:
Public schools.
It always itches for the first week or so.In context, it makes sense. Out of context, though...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
