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    Tom Delany
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    From May/June NT Insider: (Peter Pontificates) http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=586[^] "If you're using code you got from taking a seminar, or from the WDK, or from (heaven forbid!) Code Project, don't just blithely cut, pastes, and delete the copyright. (My emphasis added above.) :confused:

    WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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      From May/June NT Insider: (Peter Pontificates) http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=586[^] "If you're using code you got from taking a seminar, or from the WDK, or from (heaven forbid!) Code Project, don't just blithely cut, pastes, and delete the copyright. (My emphasis added above.) :confused:

      WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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      Chris Maunder
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      I think they mean "How dare you use code from another website, even if that website is vastly superior and not at all snotty about its members using open source code"

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        I think they mean "How dare you use code from another website, even if that website is vastly superior and not at all snotty about its members using open source code"

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

        modified on Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:54 PM

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        Tom Delany
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        5 Sir!

        WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I think they mean "How dare you use code from another website, even if that website is vastly superior and not at all snotty about its members using open source code"

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

          modified on Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:54 PM

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          Roger Wright
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          Very generous of you. The first thing I noticed about that site was that, after clicking on the link to The Basics, I was led to a page with no content, except a couple of links that lead right back to the first page. Nice design! :laugh:

          Will Rogers never met me.

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            I think they mean "How dare you use code from another website, even if that website is vastly superior and not at all snotty about its members using open source code"

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

            modified on Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:54 PM

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            realJSOP
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            even if that website is vastly superiorn

            But if only the admins could learn to spell... :)

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Chris Maunder wrote:

              even if that website is vastly superiorn

              But if only the admins could learn to spell... :)

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Chris Maunder
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              I an spell perfectly. My keyboard, on the other hand... (Maybe I need to change its batteries...)

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                I an spell perfectly. My keyboard, on the other hand... (Maybe I need to change its batteries...)

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                realJSOP
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                (Maybe I need to change its batteries...)

                When I utter those very words, I'm usually not in front of a keyboard. (where's my evil-grin smilie, dammit!?)

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I an spell perfectly. My keyboard, on the other hand... (Maybe I need to change its batteries...)

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  I an spell

                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  (Maybe I need to change its batteries...)

                  Apparently so....

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  • T Tom Delany

                    From May/June NT Insider: (Peter Pontificates) http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=586[^] "If you're using code you got from taking a seminar, or from the WDK, or from (heaven forbid!) Code Project, don't just blithely cut, pastes, and delete the copyright. (My emphasis added above.) :confused:

                    WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    They're just jealous.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      They're just jealous.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Alan Burkhart
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      They're just jealous.

                      I've visited a lot of coding sites over the last several years. CP is by far the most user-friendly in terms of layout, has far and away the best content, and is also the friendliest in terms of just plain old friendly folks (with a few grumpy exceptions who shall remain anonymous :-D ).

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        They're just jealous.

                        I've visited a lot of coding sites over the last several years. CP is by far the most user-friendly in terms of layout, has far and away the best content, and is also the friendliest in terms of just plain old friendly folks (with a few grumpy exceptions who shall remain anonymous :-D ).

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                        JimmyRopes
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                        " with a few grumpy exceptions who shall remain anonymous" Do I know you? :~

                        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          " with a few grumpy exceptions who shall remain anonymous" Do I know you? :~

                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          Alan Burkhart
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                          JimmyRopes wrote:

                          Do I know you?

                          We've met. :-D

                          XAlan Burkhart

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                          • T Tom Delany

                            From May/June NT Insider: (Peter Pontificates) http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=586[^] "If you're using code you got from taking a seminar, or from the WDK, or from (heaven forbid!) Code Project, don't just blithely cut, pastes, and delete the copyright. (My emphasis added above.) :confused:

                            WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            It's clear that they suffer from Penis envy. Perhaps when their site grows up it can stop hiding in the showers and come out and join the grown ups.

                            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                              From May/June NT Insider: (Peter Pontificates) http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=586[^] "If you're using code you got from taking a seminar, or from the WDK, or from (heaven forbid!) Code Project, don't just blithely cut, pastes, and delete the copyright. (My emphasis added above.) :confused:

                              WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                              BillWoodruff
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                              It's not surprising to me that a site for driver-developers would exhibit a pre-emptively-aggressive defensive facade, and need to fluff itself with nugatory put-downs of other religions, like CP. Think of what they suffer in those so-close-to-the-devices gulags, living in near-starvation off undocumented op-codes, high-level constructs, like fluent-interfaces, only seen in occasional wet-dreams ! best, Bill

                              "In the River of Delights, Panic has not failed me." Jorge Luis Borges

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                                From May/June NT Insider: (Peter Pontificates) http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=586[^] "If you're using code you got from taking a seminar, or from the WDK, or from (heaven forbid!) Code Project, don't just blithely cut, pastes, and delete the copyright. (My emphasis added above.) :confused:

                                WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                                Lost User
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                                The writer is only saying that using someone elses code is dangerous because its often full of bugs. OSR Online is a driver dev site. They are very very good. Industry leaders in the seminars they give on driver development. They also know the sample driver code from Microsft that comes with the WDK/DDK is very very buggy. Obviously OSR have some experience with bad driver code on CP aswell, and given the nature of this site, the ability of anyone to post code here, I agree totally with their sentiments. :)

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I think they mean "How dare you use code from another website, even if that website is vastly superior and not at all snotty about its members using open source code"

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

                                  modified on Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:54 PM

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Assuming you are serious, which I doubt, they are only warning against picking up sample (driver) code and using it because it is often very buggy. Microsofts WDK code is buggy, and because anyone can post code on CP it should be even more closely scrutinised befofe use.

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    It's clear that they suffer from Penis envy. Perhaps when their site grows up it can stop hiding in the showers and come out and join the grown ups.

                                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                    Lost User
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                                    What? OSR? You are kidding right? You know they give out a (very good) free magazine every few months, and have donen for years. They are also the biggest providor of seminars on driver development. Of course you cant compare CP to OSR, but at least recognise that its a very old, very good, very professional company. And CP is what?

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                                      It's not surprising to me that a site for driver-developers would exhibit a pre-emptively-aggressive defensive facade, and need to fluff itself with nugatory put-downs of other religions, like CP. Think of what they suffer in those so-close-to-the-devices gulags, living in near-starvation off undocumented op-codes, high-level constructs, like fluent-interfaces, only seen in occasional wet-dreams ! best, Bill

                                      "In the River of Delights, Panic has not failed me." Jorge Luis Borges

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Yet another person who chooses to read this as an attack on CP. It is merely advocating care using sample code. Misrocofts WDK is bad enough, and since anyone can put code on CP, it should be treated even more suspicipously.

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                                        From May/June NT Insider: (Peter Pontificates) http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=586[^] "If you're using code you got from taking a seminar, or from the WDK, or from (heaven forbid!) Code Project, don't just blithely cut, pastes, and delete the copyright. (My emphasis added above.) :confused:

                                        WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                                        wizardzz
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                                        Do the hamsters know about this? ...Does OSR know about the hamsters?

                                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                                          Yet another person who chooses to read this as an attack on CP. It is merely advocating care using sample code. Misrocofts WDK is bad enough, and since anyone can put code on CP, it should be treated even more suspicipously.

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                                          BillWoodruff
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                                          Eric_V wrote:

                                          Yet another person who chooses to read this as an attack on CP.

                                          Dear Sir Knight-Errant,

                                          Sorry if I have upset you.

                                          While it would be much healthier for you to take ownership of your own feelings by saying that you felt irritated reading my post, and probably others, for reasons you evidently don't understand ...

                                          If you wish to fluff yourself by feeling that your sanctified altar has been desecrated by unholy dragons ... go for it, Sir Knight: mayhaps Fair Princess be Thy prize :) in spiritu nihil dicere, Bill p.s. I remember the days when people used to pay me US $75 per hour to help them understand projective off-loading of their own vague feelings into stereotypic mental patterns of reactive judgement, and I don't want to ever go back there. Why ? Because, ultimately, for me, the Goddess Techne's siren-song was, in the end, much more seductive than Psyche's:)

                                          "In the River of Delights, Panic has not failed me." Jorge Luis Borges

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