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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: They (the commies) called it a science, but it was highly reccomended not to question the postulates of this "science". What is the political agenda of the current government of Serbia? I assume it's still left wing.. right? ;) I see you're living in the US right now. How did you end up there? Do you have a green card or do you have a visa? Sorry for asking, but I'm gathering as much information as possible about getting a permanent job in the US. I'm a bit tired of socialism for the moment.. I want to earn my own retirement fund myself so that I'm able surf CP all day long withou any monetary worries when the day comes when I don't want to work anymore. :) -- This space for rent.

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    Nemanja Trifunovic
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    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: What is the political agenda of the current government of Serbia? I assume it's still left wing.. right? No, they are a kind of centrists now. Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: How did you end up there? Eh, when I came here, times were much better for programmers. They (the company I worked for) were begging me to come. I don't think they would do that in today's economy :~ . :beer:

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    • R Rand Althor

      Failing to see the relationship with Visual C++, here. In Indonesia all school have (well, don't know now) religious education. I went to a Roman Catholic school there and they have about 3 hours a week on the religion. This include discussion on what the Church thinks, about history, and when you get a bit mature (like in Senior high) debate on sexuality, work, and how the Church perceives those things. In public schools, which are all exclusively Muslim, they have the same things, but from the Islamic point of view. I had Catholic friends going to these schools (some of these public schools are extremely hard to get into and are very good, among the best in the country).They had a choice to attend these classes or to skip it. One of my friends became a very good ping-pong player from skipping these classes. He had no choice, he lived in a rural area, and this school was the only one in the 100km area. So, yeah.. different country, different rules. Indonesia a very religious country, as all poorer nations are. They are proud of their devotion, and good on Them. I also went to High School in New Zealand. Here's there's no such thing as a religious education per se. They practically assume that you are a Christian of some sort. During school assemblies, they pray in the Christian manner: head bowed, hand clapsed together and read from Bible. No accomodation whatsoever for anything else, really.. but hey.. it's an English-based nation.

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      Rand Al'Thore.........where is Mat dammit ;) Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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      • T Tomaz Stih 0

        So what are you saying is that these special classes were sponsored by the state (at least they could use the classroom for free)? Or you don't remember? :-) Toma

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        Ranjan Banerji
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        No not sponsored by the state.

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          Hi, I wonder, how are countries dealing with the problem of religious education of children in primary schools? Are there any countries where parents would have the possibility to have religion education for their child in public schools (or perhaps sharing the same building) or is it strictly separated everywhere? How about religion education in private schools? Is it prohibited? How's the voucher system in the United States doing? Are religious schools permitted to offer voucher based educational programs in parallel with their religious programs? Tom

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          Ranjan Banerji
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          Just curious. Where are you from and how is religion handled in schools there?

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            Anyone knows that for sure? It's quite important for me. Tom

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            Christian Graus
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            I'd say it's 90% certain that public schools are not allowed to teach religion anymore. Private schools most definately can, and do. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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              Hi, I wonder, how are countries dealing with the problem of religious education of children in primary schools? Are there any countries where parents would have the possibility to have religion education for their child in public schools (or perhaps sharing the same building) or is it strictly separated everywhere? How about religion education in private schools? Is it prohibited? How's the voucher system in the United States doing? Are religious schools permitted to offer voucher based educational programs in parallel with their religious programs? Tom

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              David Wulff
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              I've been to numerous private and public schools in England at primary level - I've had to attend a chapel daily to sing Christian hymns from my own hymn book, I've had to sit in a circle and listen to a C-Of-E headmaster preach about the greatness of Jesus, and I've had slighlty less biased religious education lessons on Christianity, Islam and Budhism, touching briefly on the other main ones and the basic concepts of all religions - all during my primary education. During secondary education I was taught in far more depth about Christianity, Judaism and Islam, and ended up taking the full-course qualification at the end of school on Christianity and Islam, focusing on the ethics of life and sex (well I was sixteen at the time ;)). Overall I feel like I've been given quite a good religious education (about 4 hours a week in SE including homework), focusing both on the main world religions and a lot on the concepts of religion that can apply anywhere like sancicty of life, moral descisions, rights of individuals, etc. From the responses you've got so far it would seem Europe is the best place to get a broad religious understanding not geared at one particular con. Maybe because we've always been right in the thick of it over here? I know of Christian, Muslim and Sikh families living locally. I hear Germany is big on Satanists at the moment too (no offence meant to any Germans btw). :eek: What on eath is a "voucher based educational programme"? :~


              David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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              • T Tomaz Stih 0

                Hi, I wonder, how are countries dealing with the problem of religious education of children in primary schools? Are there any countries where parents would have the possibility to have religion education for their child in public schools (or perhaps sharing the same building) or is it strictly separated everywhere? How about religion education in private schools? Is it prohibited? How's the voucher system in the United States doing? Are religious schools permitted to offer voucher based educational programs in parallel with their religious programs? Tom

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                KaRl
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                Here in France are our public schools totally laic, thanks God! :-D The schools of the Republic are here to form citizens, not believers. Private schools are mainly catholic schools, where of course religion is teached.


                Ohé Partisans, Ouvriers et Paysans C'est l'alarme! Le Chant des Partisans

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                • C Christian Graus

                  I suspect such classes are no longer allowed. They are now moving to make it illegal to speak of Santa Claus in schools, out of 'sensitivity' for Muslims and Jews. Which is rubbish - sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                  Wasn't there a case in Canada recently where a council Christmas tree was going to be cancelled out of 'sensitivity' and the Jewish and Muslim communties told them not to be stupid ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                    Hi, I wonder, how are countries dealing with the problem of religious education of children in primary schools? Are there any countries where parents would have the possibility to have religion education for their child in public schools (or perhaps sharing the same building) or is it strictly separated everywhere? How about religion education in private schools? Is it prohibited? How's the voucher system in the United States doing? Are religious schools permitted to offer voucher based educational programs in parallel with their religious programs? Tom

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                    Felix Gartsman
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                    Well, Israeli system is very complex. First you got state system and independant one. State system is divided to secular, semi-religious and religious branches. Secular is teaching Bible from second grade. Jewish holidays are discussed at their time. If you're unlucky you study when minister of education is from religious party you may study more "tradition". But the Bible studies are like history, not "sinners go to hell" style. Semi-religious and religious branches add daily prayers and additional Jewish studies. Independant system is mostly ultra-religious with religion 'round the clock. Of course Muslims study the Koran and not Bible.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Wasn't there a case in Canada recently where a council Christmas tree was going to be cancelled out of 'sensitivity' and the Jewish and Muslim communties told them not to be stupid ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                      Christian Graus
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                      I dunno, but if it's not true, it's the sort of thing that *Should* be. I find the authorities of the PC brigade are far more sensitive than the people they seek to 'protect'. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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