Bug-out Bag
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
$10,000 in cash
Out of innocent curiosity, where do you keep this bag?
Lol, no one ever asks about the mustache.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
A small packet of cyanide would be so much less hassle :)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I live 35 miles from where I work
After an apocalyptic event you would still go to work? What an employee! You could add some type of time piece or watch and a schedule for when to use the CB to lengthen battery life.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
No, I wouldn't, but what if I'm at work when it occurs?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
My worry would be living somewhere I felt the need to have one! also I still feel unhappy about providing weapons to people who in all honesty shouldn't be allowed scissors unsupervised (plus any zombie apocalypse and these people should be imediately fed to the zombies) (as for natual diasters a supply of airfresheners would be a better use of supplies as we would all end up in the hall of a local school with probably a 5 hour queque for the showers phew!!)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Good timing last I looked we have a hurricane headed straight for us, be here either Fri-Sat Category 2-3. (Unless they changed the forecast overnight) I would add a couple of gallons, at least of drinking water just in case.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
Water purification tablets or a portable filtration system would be lighter.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
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My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
Would that be a nighttime flashlight?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
I'll use vodka. Some things that are missing: Maybe a pair of boxers. A small mirror - for signalling and snooping. Pocket warmers. [^] Duct Tape. Swiss army knife. Hey, you might need a toothpick or bottle/can opener. Quickclot. [^] Benedryl, in addition to pain killers. I keep an emergency bag in my car for winter. After seeing what happened to people in the blizzard this year, it doesn't seem too paranoid now. BTW, what portable water filtration system do you have?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Water purification tablets or a portable filtration system would be lighter.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Then you have to go to the watering hole, and you know what happens at the watering hole in nature films...
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
Personally, I just use Cash and Credit Card. Not much need of forest fire survival, floods, or wild animals here in sub-tropical Bedfordshire.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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My worry would be living somewhere I felt the need to have one! also I still feel unhappy about providing weapons to people who in all honesty shouldn't be allowed scissors unsupervised (plus any zombie apocalypse and these people should be imediately fed to the zombies) (as for natual diasters a supply of airfresheners would be a better use of supplies as we would all end up in the hall of a local school with probably a 5 hour queque for the showers phew!!)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:
My worry would be living somewhere I felt the need to have one!
In terms of natural disasters, you really don't know what/when something is going to happen. Regading alien invasions, I assume that tactical considerations would apply, and city centers/military installations would be affected at the outset of an invasion. Regarding a zombi apocalypse, it will probably be worst initially in heavily populated cities, but will likely spread to outlying areas as the inner-city food supply runs out. :)
Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:
also I still feel unhappy about providing weapons to people who in all honesty shouldn't be allowed scissors unsupervised (plus any zombie apocalypse and these people should be imediately fed to the zombies)
The knife mentioned in the list of equipment was merely to accomplish simple cleaning of game or other uses not necessarily described as "offensive capabilities".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
Good list. I might add some boots (although you probably wear boots all the time) and a lightweight rain suit (like Frogg Toggs) or a poncho.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
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No, I wouldn't, but what if I'm at work when it occurs?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997I knew that... but it wouldn't be funny the other way round would it? :rolleyes: Good list. Up here in the frigid midwest I carry a similar kit in case we get stuck in a blizzard or become snow bound. We leave the kit in the car through the summer refreshing the consumables on a monthly basis. You just never know...
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Then you have to go to the watering hole, and you know what happens at the watering hole in nature films...
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
I live in Seattle, Washington, USA. That is to say, earthquake country, and a part of the world that would be in big trouble if a tsunami is triggered in the right direction. We get public service messages to keep "preparedness kits" on hand in the event of an emergency, and I've had one since 1998. I keep it just inside my bedroom door, where I can grab it quickly (in my apartment, bedrooms are towards the front with the kitchen and the rest towards the back.) We get occasional fire alarms, which is good practice to see how quickly I can grab it and exit to the street. One thing you don't mention is money. I keep some bills and coins in mine, as well as an extra debit card, one credit card and my most recently expired driver's license. I generally do not sleep with my wallet, after all :rolleyes:
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Then you have to go to the watering hole, and you know what happens at the watering hole in nature films...
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Remember the scene with the proto-humans at the water hole in the movie 2001 a Space Odyssey?
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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My wife asked me last night what a "bug-out" bag was, and I explained that it's essentially a backpack containing enough equipment and supplies to sustain one person for a minimum of three days in the event that you needed to immediately and efficiently evacuate your current location on foot. My wife was subsequently surprised to find out that I had already built each of us one. In fact, I keep mine in the trunk of my car. I wasn't going to give my wife hers until it looked like she'd need it (I didn't want her to think I was a whacko survivalist nut-job), but hers is now in the trunk of her car (she was insistent, and she added half a dozen extra magazines for her 9mm - what a woman). I assume there are people here that would be interested in building a bug-out bag (to survive in the event of a natural disaster, alien invasion, or zombie apocalypse, or those kinds of things), so I figured I'd give y'all a list of things to consider for your own bag (and regardless of who or where you are, or what you believe, you really should have one setup and ready to go).
- Backpack - a tough small backpack (you're interested in something you can carry on your back for up to five days)
- 100 feet of paracord
- Knife (with a serrated edge - a folding knife will be lighter and smaller)
- Thermal blankets (those silver mylar ones are extremely compact)
- Waterproof matches
- Fire-starter (essentially two pieces of flint that create a spark when scraped together)
- Chemlites (those green sticks that glow when you snap them)
- Aspirin (can be used in a pinch for wound care as well)
- Neosporin (a small tube should do)
- Box of bandaids
- Box of alchohol wipes (to clean wounds)
- Flashlight (a mini-lite will do - it's lighter and smaller - try to get one with an optional red lens cover)
- Compass (a lensatic compass would be best)
- Water filtration kit
- Ball cap (head covering of some kind may be important)
- Eye protection (googles would be best)
- Medical masks (at least half a dozen)
- Gloves (tough, and insulated)
- Street Map of your city (with possible rendezvous locations that all family members could possible find their way to)
- Topological map of your area
- A handheld CB radio (optional, but if you're in a group, or meeting a pre-dtermined rendezvous point, it could be handy if you become separated)
- Hearing protection (foam ear plugs w
Always save one round for your head when the zombies eventually take your position over...two if you are with your lady. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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Always save one round for your head when the zombies eventually take your position over...two if you are with your lady. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
His lady is packing too.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
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One thing I'd suggest adding to your trunk kit, if not the actual bag, would be a pair of good walking shoes/broken in hiking boots. This is probably more important for the ladies (heels, etc), but I've never had a pair of even vaguely dressy shoes that are as comfortable for long walks as a good pair of sneakers.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
Yes, shoes are very important. At least two pairs of socks, as well.
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Water purification tablets or a portable filtration system would be lighter.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997OK maybe not a couple of gallons but a couple of bottles so if you need to get out quick you won't have to worry about water immediately.
A girl phoned me and said, 'Come on over. There's nobody home.' I went over. Nobody was home! Rodney Dangerfield
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Personally, I just use Cash and Credit Card. Not much need of forest fire survival, floods, or wild animals here in sub-tropical Bedfordshire.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
wild animals here in sub-tropical Bedfordshire.
That's not what I heard about Luton on a Saturday night! ;)
Ali
