This is fairly tasteless
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Looking at the state of the US from the outside, it seems that the politicians are so busy playing politics right now, they have lost sight of the fact that they are having an effect on the country and how it's being viewed by the markets. That's a real shame - I had hoped to move to the US one day.
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Well, if Perry or Bachmann gets the white house in 2012, you can have my spot, because I'll be moving to Toronto.
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Looking at the state of the US from the outside, it seems that the politicians are so busy playing politics right now, they have lost sight of the fact that they are having an effect on the country and how it's being viewed by the markets. That's a real shame - I had hoped to move to the US one day.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I had hoped to move to the US one day.
I believe you can have dual citizenship (England/United States). If this is true then you can live one month in the U.S. and the other 11 months in England.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
it seems that the politicians are so busy playing politics right now, they have lost sight of the fact that they are having an effect on the country and how it's being viewed by the markets.
By the markets and other countries in general. This topic can and has been debated into the ground but our government has lost sight of the big picture. There are so many people in this country that don't want to see non-Christians in positions of power. The religion token is just one of many, many hot topics. I love my country and have fought for my country but I can't help but feel embarrassed and humiliated sometimes. -- Cheers.
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Looking at the state of the US from the outside, it seems that the politicians are so busy playing politics right now, they have lost sight of the fact that they are having an effect on the country and how it's being viewed by the markets. That's a real shame - I had hoped to move to the US one day.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I had hoped to move to the US one day.
The problem with foreigners wanting to move to the U.S. is that they discover that we don't do things the way they did in their home country and expect us to change.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Typical Americanism!
Why am I not surprised that "God" has to be in the book as well. My country still associates Freedom with God.
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Slacker007 wrote:
My country still associates Freedom with God.
You mean as in "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"? That's a deliberate choice made by Jefferson - who was not enamored of religion in the slightest. Rights granted by governments are, by definition, rights that can be taken away. God's authority is a trump card and His granting of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" has been played as a trump card more than once. For instance, to end slavery. Of course, there are lots of folks who insist that all rights come from, and can be repealed by, the government. Here in the States, they are usually those who claim that democracy means that 50%+1 can pass any law, and do anything they wished. I've heard that argument made on the left and on the right, usually by folks who think there's just too damn much freedom (to bear arms or speak your mind, depending on who is arguing for fundamental change). Presumably these folks are perfectly okay with the idea that their life, liberty and property would be totally at the mercy of Barack Obama and John Boehner. :rolleyes:
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Well, if Perry or Bachmann gets the white house in 2012, you can have my spot, because I'll be moving to Toronto.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)As scary as the thought is, don't make idle threats. I heard it enough in '04 and nobody that promised to leave, left.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I had hoped to move to the US one day.
The problem with foreigners wanting to move to the U.S. is that they discover that we don't do things the way they did in their home country and expect us to change.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Exactly, just ask the Natives.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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A colouring book designed to teach young children about the September 11 terrorist attacks[^] Not so much that it is wrong, but do young kids have to be aware of it?
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Eric_V wrote:
but do young kids have to be aware of it?
Have to be? No. Is the book being forced into these kids' hands? Are parents required to show it to their kids by some governmental authority? If so, this is a fundamental wrong and should be stamped out. If, on the other hand, if it a simply another book that is available because the U.S. has a free press and free speech is guaranteed by the law of the land, then I fail to see what concern it is to anyone. From what I could gather, the book tells the truth. It calls the Islamists who perpetrated 9/11 (and killed friends and co-workers of mine) hijackers and terrorists. It shows the United State exacting a very high price for 9/11. Parents who want their kids to understand what happened can give their kids the book. Parents who want to forgive and forget, or who simply believe their children are not old enough to be exposed to those truths, will keep the book away from their kids, and let them remain ignorant. Stupidity is a condition: ignorance is a choice and one that some people make, over and over again, but nonetheless, which is always correctable.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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As scary as the thought is, don't make idle threats. I heard it enough in '04 and nobody that promised to leave, left.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Doesn't necessarily mean a permanent move... Could go expat for a few years, until the country comes to its senses. The only trick is finding a programming job in Toronto.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Exactly, just ask the Natives.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
wizardzz wrote:
Exactly, just ask the Natives.
Exactly. Of course we don't scalp newcomers any longer. You can also ask the Celts, and the Picts about the Angles and the Saxons, the Etruscans about the Romans, or Mycenaeans about the Dorians.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Doesn't necessarily mean a permanent move... Could go expat for a few years, until the country comes to its senses. The only trick is finding a programming job in Toronto.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)If I wanted to, I probably could. My former boss, that hired me, left for a job there heading the IT department. I was just saying I'm sick of baseless threats to leave the country, I'd say .01% of those making the threat leave.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Slacker007 wrote:
My country still associates Freedom with God.
You mean as in "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"? That's a deliberate choice made by Jefferson - who was not enamored of religion in the slightest. Rights granted by governments are, by definition, rights that can be taken away. God's authority is a trump card and His granting of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" has been played as a trump card more than once. For instance, to end slavery. Of course, there are lots of folks who insist that all rights come from, and can be repealed by, the government. Here in the States, they are usually those who claim that democracy means that 50%+1 can pass any law, and do anything they wished. I've heard that argument made on the left and on the right, usually by folks who think there's just too damn much freedom (to bear arms or speak your mind, depending on who is arguing for fundamental change). Presumably these folks are perfectly okay with the idea that their life, liberty and property would be totally at the mercy of Barack Obama and John Boehner. :rolleyes:
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
You mean as in "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"?
That's not necessarily religious. Everyone has a "creator"... Usually two of them... They're called parents. And those parents can be said to have gotten the rights from THEIR creators, and so on and so on. Isn't recursion fun?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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wizardzz wrote:
Exactly, just ask the Natives.
Exactly. Of course we don't scalp newcomers any longer. You can also ask the Celts, and the Picts about the Angles and the Saxons, the Etruscans about the Romans, or Mycenaeans about the Dorians.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
Exactly. Of course we don't scalp newcomers any longer.
:sigh: We should have learned from them...
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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If I wanted to, I probably could. My former boss, that hired me, left for a job there heading the IT department. I was just saying I'm sick of baseless threats to leave the country, I'd say .01% of those making the threat leave.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Well, I'm serious... If Perry or Bachmann actually gets elected*, I fear for the future of this country... And being an atheist, I don't want to be here when they decide that the US is going to become a Christian nation. Besides, I've been to Toronto... Looks like a pretty nice place, and it's only an eight hour drive from here. Granted, I can't foresee everything, so when November 2012 rolls around, leaving may no longer be feasible for me. * Note: I'm referring to those specific people, not a GOP candidate in general... Romney, for example, wouldn't be my first choice for President, but I don't think he'd be all that bad... Perry or Bachmann could be VP if they want... We're used to having jokes and fools in that position.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Well, I'm serious... If Perry or Bachmann actually gets elected*, I fear for the future of this country... And being an atheist, I don't want to be here when they decide that the US is going to become a Christian nation. Besides, I've been to Toronto... Looks like a pretty nice place, and it's only an eight hour drive from here. Granted, I can't foresee everything, so when November 2012 rolls around, leaving may no longer be feasible for me. * Note: I'm referring to those specific people, not a GOP candidate in general... Romney, for example, wouldn't be my first choice for President, but I don't think he'd be all that bad... Perry or Bachmann could be VP if they want... We're used to having jokes and fools in that position.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
And being an atheist, I don't want to be here when they decide that the US is going to become a Christian nation.
How exactly can the Prez decide that?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Oakman wrote:
You mean as in "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"?
That's not necessarily religious. Everyone has a "creator"... Usually two of them... They're called parents. And those parents can be said to have gotten the rights from THEIR creators, and so on and so on. Isn't recursion fun?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Ian Shlasko wrote:
And being an atheist, I don't want to be here when they decide that the US is going to become a Christian nation.
How exactly can the Prez decide that?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
With the help of a cooperative Congress... Notice the influx of teabaggers. Plenty can be done without a constitutional amendment.
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With the help of a cooperative Congress... Notice the influx of teabaggers. Plenty can be done without a constitutional amendment.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
With the help of a cooperative Congress...
True, the Dems have been overly cooperative.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Of course Jefferson capitalized "Creator" for a reason because he knew the difference - one I recommend, you research.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Because he, like nearly everyone back then, believed in the invisible man in the sky. Times change.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
With the help of a cooperative Congress...
True, the Dems have been overly cooperative.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Yeah, they've been doormats. It's really pathetic... I'm embarrassed to admit that I voted for three of them.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Well, I'm serious... If Perry or Bachmann actually gets elected*, I fear for the future of this country... And being an atheist, I don't want to be here when they decide that the US is going to become a Christian nation. Besides, I've been to Toronto... Looks like a pretty nice place, and it's only an eight hour drive from here. Granted, I can't foresee everything, so when November 2012 rolls around, leaving may no longer be feasible for me. * Note: I'm referring to those specific people, not a GOP candidate in general... Romney, for example, wouldn't be my first choice for President, but I don't think he'd be all that bad... Perry or Bachmann could be VP if they want... We're used to having jokes and fools in that position.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I'm doing all I can to insure that here in South Carolina - a state Perry is depending on - the truth is known about this poseur. You could do with a little knowledge yourself. Perry's new-found role as a fundamentalist came about only because he discovered that it was a great way of getting elected in a state where fundamental Christianity is a belief practiced by many. Everything about his political career suggests that Perry is a chameleon, saying and "believing" what he thinks will get him elected. He remains a good friend to Al Gore, a man whose campaign for the Presidential nomination he managed, he favored amnesty as long as he was running for office in Texas, and he supported Clinton's attempt to create Hillarycare. In other words, he's a whore who will say and do anything that he thinks will get him elected. Right now he's talking right because he thinks that's how he can get the nomination. He'll move to the center if he gets it, in an attempt to force Obama to the left. As to the idea that somehow Perry, or Bachmann would be able to unilaterally repeal the First Amendment, I urge you to rethink your view of how the U.S. Constitution works. Not even Obama who sometimes seems to act as if he believed that a president reigns not serves, would attempt to monkey with the First Amendment. Isn't nice that you live in a country where, if you decide to give up your citizenship, the only thing that is said is, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass as you leave?"
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein