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  • C Chris Maunder

    Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

    Incorrect address:
    Chris Maunder
    250 Ferrand Dr
    Toronto, ON M3C3G8
    Canada

    Suggested Address:
    250 Ferrand Dr
    Toronto, ON
    USA

    No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    Dalek Dave
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    It is much the same with US television... They show the Houses of Parliament, a red double decker bus driving past, and then the words London, England appear on the screen. Or The Eiffel Tower, some accordion music and Paris, France. Another US thing I once saw, that would annoy Griff no end, was a newspaper headline that datelined "Wales, England". Wars have been started over that one.

    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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      Are you not aware that Ontario is in California? :confused:

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      Lost User
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      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

      Ontario is in California?

      Are you kidding? Ontario is in India.

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        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        Ontario is in California?

        Are you kidding? Ontario is in India.

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        Dalek Dave
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        I thought that was Indiana? I know Prince Charles was once In Diana.

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          I thought that was Indiana? I know Prince Charles was once In Diana.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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          Henry Minute
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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          I know Prince Charles was once In Diana.

          That was before he ate the Horses Doovre.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

            Incorrect address:
            Chris Maunder
            250 Ferrand Dr
            Toronto, ON M3C3G8
            Canada

            Suggested Address:
            250 Ferrand Dr
            Toronto, ON
            USA

            No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            realJSOP
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            You can solve all of this by simply moving to the US and buying only from US companies. Then you can sit back and chuckle when someone posts a rant like this. :) Seriously though, this is more a problem with the Q/A (or lack thereof) when testing web sites, and is endemic of ALL developers/corporations, not just in the US. Nobody EVER allows enough time for testing, so it's not surprising that this kind crap slips through the cracks.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              I know Prince Charles was once In Diana.

              That was before he ate the Horses Doovre.

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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              Dalek Dave
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              Any man who can look across a crowded room and find This[^] attractive needs his eyesight tested or his discretion questioned.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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              • C Chris Maunder

                Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

                Incorrect address:
                Chris Maunder
                250 Ferrand Dr
                Toronto, ON M3C3G8
                Canada

                Suggested Address:
                250 Ferrand Dr
                Toronto, ON
                USA

                No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                Christopher Duncan
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                We annexed Canada last month. Didn't you get the memo? :-D

                Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  You can solve all of this by simply moving to the US and buying only from US companies. Then you can sit back and chuckle when someone posts a rant like this. :) Seriously though, this is more a problem with the Q/A (or lack thereof) when testing web sites, and is endemic of ALL developers/corporations, not just in the US. Nobody EVER allows enough time for testing, so it's not surprising that this kind crap slips through the cracks.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Testing? Hang on, let me grab a dictionary...

                  Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    We annexed Canada last month. Didn't you get the memo? :-D

                    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    Poor Bloody Canada. First it belonged to the Natives, then the French, Then the British, and now they are, to the USians, Mexico North.

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

                      Incorrect address:
                      Chris Maunder
                      250 Ferrand Dr
                      Toronto, ON M3C3G8
                      Canada

                      Suggested Address:
                      250 Ferrand Dr
                      Toronto, ON
                      USA

                      No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      BobJanova
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                      Simple answer: don't buy anything from those companies. It is very annoying (with a few exceptions, like online tax returns and stuff that really is bound to one country) and any site that won't accept my address won't get my business. (Or the other one you forgot, which is a site requiring a 3-3-4 phone number.) Some sites can't even get it right within their own country. Like sites which insist that an address is of the form '(number) (street name)' – in my home village they just name the houses, and I can see that farmers would not be able to fill in a number either. (Fortunately that mistake seems to have gone out of fashion.) Or credit card/bank account/etc applications which only allow for one middle initial. Edit: oh yes, forgot another one, domain name/email address validators that require an email of the form 'a@b.c', so 'xx@xx.co.uk' (or .com.au or several other countries that do this) aren't accepted.

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                      • B BobJanova

                        Simple answer: don't buy anything from those companies. It is very annoying (with a few exceptions, like online tax returns and stuff that really is bound to one country) and any site that won't accept my address won't get my business. (Or the other one you forgot, which is a site requiring a 3-3-4 phone number.) Some sites can't even get it right within their own country. Like sites which insist that an address is of the form '(number) (street name)' – in my home village they just name the houses, and I can see that farmers would not be able to fill in a number either. (Fortunately that mistake seems to have gone out of fashion.) Or credit card/bank account/etc applications which only allow for one middle initial. Edit: oh yes, forgot another one, domain name/email address validators that require an email of the form 'a@b.c', so 'xx@xx.co.uk' (or .com.au or several other countries that do this) aren't accepted.

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                        Henry Minute
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                        BobJanova wrote:

                        Simple answer: don't buy anything from those companies.

                        Good idea but terribly ineffective. Unless, that is, you take the time to Email them to let them know what you would have bought and why you aren't going to.

                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Poor Bloody Canada. First it belonged to the Natives, then the French, Then the British, and now they are, to the USians, Mexico North.

                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                          Christopher Duncan
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                          More like North Montana. A really, really polite North Montana. :-D

                          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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                          • B BobJanova

                            Simple answer: don't buy anything from those companies. It is very annoying (with a few exceptions, like online tax returns and stuff that really is bound to one country) and any site that won't accept my address won't get my business. (Or the other one you forgot, which is a site requiring a 3-3-4 phone number.) Some sites can't even get it right within their own country. Like sites which insist that an address is of the form '(number) (street name)' – in my home village they just name the houses, and I can see that farmers would not be able to fill in a number either. (Fortunately that mistake seems to have gone out of fashion.) Or credit card/bank account/etc applications which only allow for one middle initial. Edit: oh yes, forgot another one, domain name/email address validators that require an email of the form 'a@b.c', so 'xx@xx.co.uk' (or .com.au or several other countries that do this) aren't accepted.

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            It's not a simple answer, it's a simplistic answer. Sometimes there simply is no other supplier. I'm all for making a point (Lord knows...) but when I need a carbon fibre aerodynamic bottle top opener that matches the exact colour of my bike and there's only one place to get it, and they won't give it to me, things get ugly. Real ugly.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              We annexed Canada last month. Didn't you get the memo? :-D

                              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              Again??

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                I thought that was Indiana? I know Prince Charles was once In Diana.

                                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                I know Prince Charles was once In Diana.

                                Diana. Not even once! :-D

                                Regards, Nish


                                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  It's not a simple answer, it's a simplistic answer. Sometimes there simply is no other supplier. I'm all for making a point (Lord knows...) but when I need a carbon fibre aerodynamic bottle top opener that matches the exact colour of my bike and there's only one place to get it, and they won't give it to me, things get ugly. Real ugly.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Nagy Vilmos
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                                  Oil up Sean and send him over to complain...


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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Any man who can look across a crowded room and find This[^] attractive needs his eyesight tested or his discretion questioned.

                                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                    OriginalGriff
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                                    Ah! The very Lovely Camelface Partly-Bald! Our future Queen, don't you know old chap?

                                    Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      It is much the same with US television... They show the Houses of Parliament, a red double decker bus driving past, and then the words London, England appear on the screen. Or The Eiffel Tower, some accordion music and Paris, France. Another US thing I once saw, that would annoy Griff no end, was a newspaper headline that datelined "Wales, England". Wars have been started over that one.

                                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                      OriginalGriff
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                                      Hardly, I am always surprised that Americans can find any country outside the US even with a plane, never mind a map... And if they think we are part of England that is also an advantage: they will stay away in droves! :laugh:

                                      Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

                                        Incorrect address:
                                        Chris Maunder
                                        250 Ferrand Dr
                                        Toronto, ON M3C3G8
                                        Canada

                                        Suggested Address:
                                        250 Ferrand Dr
                                        Toronto, ON
                                        USA

                                        No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        jesarg
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                                        Well, I think it's more of a sloppy code issue than anything else; they probably just copy-pasted code that was inappropriate for the situation and never fully tested the final application. Also, there's really no guarantee that the developers who put together the sloppy code were from the USA. It could easily have been subcontractors from India or Pakistan; there are people all over the world who don't know if Canada is part of the USA or not.

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                                        • C Christopher Duncan

                                          Testing? Hang on, let me grab a dictionary...

                                          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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                                          OriginalGriff
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                                          It's the word just after Testes - which is what most testing is anyway...

                                          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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