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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    You can solve all of this by simply moving to the US and buying only from US companies. Then you can sit back and chuckle when someone posts a rant like this. :) Seriously though, this is more a problem with the Q/A (or lack thereof) when testing web sites, and is endemic of ALL developers/corporations, not just in the US. Nobody EVER allows enough time for testing, so it's not surprising that this kind crap slips through the cracks.

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    Testing? Hang on, let me grab a dictionary...

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      We annexed Canada last month. Didn't you get the memo? :-D

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      Dalek Dave
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      Poor Bloody Canada. First it belonged to the Natives, then the French, Then the British, and now they are, to the USians, Mexico North.

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        Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

        Incorrect address:
        Chris Maunder
        250 Ferrand Dr
        Toronto, ON M3C3G8
        Canada

        Suggested Address:
        250 Ferrand Dr
        Toronto, ON
        USA

        No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        BobJanova
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        Simple answer: don't buy anything from those companies. It is very annoying (with a few exceptions, like online tax returns and stuff that really is bound to one country) and any site that won't accept my address won't get my business. (Or the other one you forgot, which is a site requiring a 3-3-4 phone number.) Some sites can't even get it right within their own country. Like sites which insist that an address is of the form '(number) (street name)' – in my home village they just name the houses, and I can see that farmers would not be able to fill in a number either. (Fortunately that mistake seems to have gone out of fashion.) Or credit card/bank account/etc applications which only allow for one middle initial. Edit: oh yes, forgot another one, domain name/email address validators that require an email of the form 'a@b.c', so 'xx@xx.co.uk' (or .com.au or several other countries that do this) aren't accepted.

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          Simple answer: don't buy anything from those companies. It is very annoying (with a few exceptions, like online tax returns and stuff that really is bound to one country) and any site that won't accept my address won't get my business. (Or the other one you forgot, which is a site requiring a 3-3-4 phone number.) Some sites can't even get it right within their own country. Like sites which insist that an address is of the form '(number) (street name)' – in my home village they just name the houses, and I can see that farmers would not be able to fill in a number either. (Fortunately that mistake seems to have gone out of fashion.) Or credit card/bank account/etc applications which only allow for one middle initial. Edit: oh yes, forgot another one, domain name/email address validators that require an email of the form 'a@b.c', so 'xx@xx.co.uk' (or .com.au or several other countries that do this) aren't accepted.

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          Henry Minute
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          BobJanova wrote:

          Simple answer: don't buy anything from those companies.

          Good idea but terribly ineffective. Unless, that is, you take the time to Email them to let them know what you would have bought and why you aren't going to.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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            Poor Bloody Canada. First it belonged to the Natives, then the French, Then the British, and now they are, to the USians, Mexico North.

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            Christopher Duncan
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            More like North Montana. A really, really polite North Montana. :-D

            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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              We annexed Canada last month. Didn't you get the memo? :-D

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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              Again??

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                Simple answer: don't buy anything from those companies. It is very annoying (with a few exceptions, like online tax returns and stuff that really is bound to one country) and any site that won't accept my address won't get my business. (Or the other one you forgot, which is a site requiring a 3-3-4 phone number.) Some sites can't even get it right within their own country. Like sites which insist that an address is of the form '(number) (street name)' – in my home village they just name the houses, and I can see that farmers would not be able to fill in a number either. (Fortunately that mistake seems to have gone out of fashion.) Or credit card/bank account/etc applications which only allow for one middle initial. Edit: oh yes, forgot another one, domain name/email address validators that require an email of the form 'a@b.c', so 'xx@xx.co.uk' (or .com.au or several other countries that do this) aren't accepted.

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                Chris Maunder
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                It's not a simple answer, it's a simplistic answer. Sometimes there simply is no other supplier. I'm all for making a point (Lord knows...) but when I need a carbon fibre aerodynamic bottle top opener that matches the exact colour of my bike and there's only one place to get it, and they won't give it to me, things get ugly. Real ugly.

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  I thought that was Indiana? I know Prince Charles was once In Diana.

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  I know Prince Charles was once In Diana.

                  Diana. Not even once! :-D

                  Regards, Nish


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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    It's not a simple answer, it's a simplistic answer. Sometimes there simply is no other supplier. I'm all for making a point (Lord knows...) but when I need a carbon fibre aerodynamic bottle top opener that matches the exact colour of my bike and there's only one place to get it, and they won't give it to me, things get ugly. Real ugly.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    Oil up Sean and send him over to complain...


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                      Any man who can look across a crowded room and find This[^] attractive needs his eyesight tested or his discretion questioned.

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                      Ah! The very Lovely Camelface Partly-Bald! Our future Queen, don't you know old chap?

                      Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        It is much the same with US television... They show the Houses of Parliament, a red double decker bus driving past, and then the words London, England appear on the screen. Or The Eiffel Tower, some accordion music and Paris, France. Another US thing I once saw, that would annoy Griff no end, was a newspaper headline that datelined "Wales, England". Wars have been started over that one.

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                        Hardly, I am always surprised that Americans can find any country outside the US even with a plane, never mind a map... And if they think we are part of England that is also an advantage: they will stay away in droves! :laugh:

                        Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

                          Incorrect address:
                          Chris Maunder
                          250 Ferrand Dr
                          Toronto, ON M3C3G8
                          Canada

                          Suggested Address:
                          250 Ferrand Dr
                          Toronto, ON
                          USA

                          No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          Well, I think it's more of a sloppy code issue than anything else; they probably just copy-pasted code that was inappropriate for the situation and never fully tested the final application. Also, there's really no guarantee that the developers who put together the sloppy code were from the USA. It could easily have been subcontractors from India or Pakistan; there are people all over the world who don't know if Canada is part of the USA or not.

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                            Testing? Hang on, let me grab a dictionary...

                            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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                            OriginalGriff
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                            It's the word just after Testes - which is what most testing is anyway...

                            Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

                              Incorrect address:
                              Chris Maunder
                              250 Ferrand Dr
                              Toronto, ON M3C3G8
                              Canada

                              Suggested Address:
                              250 Ferrand Dr
                              Toronto, ON
                              USA

                              No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              GuyThiebaut
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                              Yes - I've hit similar issues with Spanish addresses and Spanish names in my work. In Spain people have two surnames - Just imagine what happens when you try to transfer data between databases...

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                                Again??

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Dave Kreskowiak
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                                Yes, we just made it the largest of the US National Parks.

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                                  Yes, this is aimed squarly at US developers. I'm sorry, but there are other countries in the world and it really, really helps your country's economy when you allow these unwashed foreigner types to buy from you. My latest (in a series) was a site that was extremely helpful in suggesting a corrected address for me:

                                  Incorrect address:
                                  Chris Maunder
                                  250 Ferrand Dr
                                  Toronto, ON M3C3G8
                                  Canada

                                  Suggested Address:
                                  250 Ferrand Dr
                                  Toronto, ON
                                  USA

                                  No, I really think I managed to get it right the first time. Trust me. But while I'm on the topic it's extremely frustrating when: - the site insists that postal codes are 5 digits (or it's an Australian site that thinks the only postcode in the world is a 4 digit one) - the site offers you the ability to choose any country, but no way to choose anything other than 1 of the "standard" 50 states. - the site won't accept credit cards from non-US addresses - (a little specific) the site uses a .ca website, is based in the US, and then won't ship to Canada.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Andrew Rissing
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                                  Dang it! The final take over of Canada was supposed to take place next week. Someone updated the website before it was supposed to. ;-)

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                                    Again??

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Chris Meech
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                                    Don't worry Chris. The annexation occurs about every 2 or 3 years. One day, I think they'll get it correct and ask us to take over them. :)

                                    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                                      It's not a simple answer, it's a simplistic answer. Sometimes there simply is no other supplier. I'm all for making a point (Lord knows...) but when I need a carbon fibre aerodynamic bottle top opener that matches the exact colour of my bike and there's only one place to get it, and they won't give it to me, things get ugly. Real ugly.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                                      carbon fibre aerodynamic bottle top opener

                                      Like of what use would be a bottle top opener be while biking? Or do you use it to break the fingers of people that cut you off in traffic? Cheers!

                                      "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."

                                      Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925

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                                        Again??

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        Christopher Duncan
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                                        We're thinking about giving Texas back to Mexico and need a place to store all our stuff until we can rent a big enough warehouse.

                                        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer

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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          carbon fibre aerodynamic bottle top opener

                                          Like of what use would be a bottle top opener be while biking? Or do you use it to break the fingers of people that cut you off in traffic? Cheers!

                                          "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."

                                          Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          I think it's to impress the ladies. :cool:

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