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Am I expecting too much from Google?

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    Andrei Bozantan
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    It seems that after they bragged so much about the awesome speed of Chrome and V8 they screwed some things in it. The canvas element in the latest version (Chrome 15) is painfully slow. Initially I thought that there is a problem with my code, but it runs fine in any other browser (Firefox, Opera and even IE9 :laugh: ). These are the links to the issue and to the discussion forum: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=102284 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=4302254a6794b5fd&hl=en. In the meantime another team worked for several months on the new look for GMail, Google Reader, Blogger, etc. Remember just the UI changed, there is no new functionality, and they worked on it for months. And of course the new UI runs much slower than the older one (at least in Firefox) and I would also dare to say that is far from a perfect design. It has at least on major downside over the previous version: there is much less vertical space for reading the email content (event when you choose the compact display density) and this matters on a regular laptop screen. Also, recently I bought an Android smartphone. In general Android seems to be ok from an user perspective, but of course there should be a black spot: the default Gallery application is terrible, it can't be used by any sane person. I wonder how these things happen in a company which has thousands of the smartest developers in the world? Do I expect too much from Google's free products?

    If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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      It seems that after they bragged so much about the awesome speed of Chrome and V8 they screwed some things in it. The canvas element in the latest version (Chrome 15) is painfully slow. Initially I thought that there is a problem with my code, but it runs fine in any other browser (Firefox, Opera and even IE9 :laugh: ). These are the links to the issue and to the discussion forum: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=102284 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=4302254a6794b5fd&hl=en. In the meantime another team worked for several months on the new look for GMail, Google Reader, Blogger, etc. Remember just the UI changed, there is no new functionality, and they worked on it for months. And of course the new UI runs much slower than the older one (at least in Firefox) and I would also dare to say that is far from a perfect design. It has at least on major downside over the previous version: there is much less vertical space for reading the email content (event when you choose the compact display density) and this matters on a regular laptop screen. Also, recently I bought an Android smartphone. In general Android seems to be ok from an user perspective, but of course there should be a black spot: the default Gallery application is terrible, it can't be used by any sane person. I wonder how these things happen in a company which has thousands of the smartest developers in the world? Do I expect too much from Google's free products?

      If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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      Julien Villers
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      Andrei Bozantan wrote:

      I wonder how these things happen in a company which has thousands of the smartest developers in the world?

      You can make very bad teams with very good individuals. I think that's another example of this fact. My opinion on Google has been going lower and lower for some time now. I find Firefox 7 to be lighter on the PC/Windows than Chrome, mostly due to intense use of tabs on my part, which cause whole processes to be created on Chrome, with a massive RAM overhead (by intense I mean more than advertised in Google's print ads here - about 5/6, like a dozen at once, nothing crazy like the 50+ I did long ago, in dial-up years with early Firefox versions). The tab switching in Chrome is very painful on an old laptop, it can take literally MINUTES before there is something else than a blank page, whereas Firefox stays snappy. Oh and I never liked Gmail.

      'As programmers go, I'm fairly social. Which still means I'm a borderline sociopath by normal standards.' Jeff Atwood 'I'm French! Why do you think I've got this outrrrrageous accent?' Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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        It seems that after they bragged so much about the awesome speed of Chrome and V8 they screwed some things in it. The canvas element in the latest version (Chrome 15) is painfully slow. Initially I thought that there is a problem with my code, but it runs fine in any other browser (Firefox, Opera and even IE9 :laugh: ). These are the links to the issue and to the discussion forum: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=102284 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=4302254a6794b5fd&hl=en. In the meantime another team worked for several months on the new look for GMail, Google Reader, Blogger, etc. Remember just the UI changed, there is no new functionality, and they worked on it for months. And of course the new UI runs much slower than the older one (at least in Firefox) and I would also dare to say that is far from a perfect design. It has at least on major downside over the previous version: there is much less vertical space for reading the email content (event when you choose the compact display density) and this matters on a regular laptop screen. Also, recently I bought an Android smartphone. In general Android seems to be ok from an user perspective, but of course there should be a black spot: the default Gallery application is terrible, it can't be used by any sane person. I wonder how these things happen in a company which has thousands of the smartest developers in the world? Do I expect too much from Google's free products?

        If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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        Andrei Bozantan wrote:

        I wonder how these things happen in a company which has thousands of the smartest developers in the world?
        Do I expect too much from Google's free products?

        My two-penneth on this is: I see a lot of times people push their favourite apps/languages/systems forward rather than look at an application from the point of view of "what do we want to do and what is the best method to get there?" What I see are huge egos and loud voices winning out much of the time rather than the rational questioning I try to use when looking at apps - which sometimes means that you use something like vbscript rather than design a whole system in C#... I have seen a perfectly good system being superceded by Excel purely because the person with the loudest voice and most pretty pictures insisted on doing everything in Excel(and even told me that VBA was the wrong way to do things in Excel)...

        Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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          It seems that after they bragged so much about the awesome speed of Chrome and V8 they screwed some things in it. The canvas element in the latest version (Chrome 15) is painfully slow. Initially I thought that there is a problem with my code, but it runs fine in any other browser (Firefox, Opera and even IE9 :laugh: ). These are the links to the issue and to the discussion forum: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=102284 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=4302254a6794b5fd&hl=en. In the meantime another team worked for several months on the new look for GMail, Google Reader, Blogger, etc. Remember just the UI changed, there is no new functionality, and they worked on it for months. And of course the new UI runs much slower than the older one (at least in Firefox) and I would also dare to say that is far from a perfect design. It has at least on major downside over the previous version: there is much less vertical space for reading the email content (event when you choose the compact display density) and this matters on a regular laptop screen. Also, recently I bought an Android smartphone. In general Android seems to be ok from an user perspective, but of course there should be a black spot: the default Gallery application is terrible, it can't be used by any sane person. I wonder how these things happen in a company which has thousands of the smartest developers in the world? Do I expect too much from Google's free products?

          If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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          Andrei Bozantan wrote:

          thousands of the smartest developers in the world?

          Have you visited Q&A recently?

          Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman

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            Andrei Bozantan wrote:

            thousands of the smartest developers in the world?

            Have you visited Q&A recently?

            Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman

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            Andrei Bozantan
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            Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean. Q&A where?

            If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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              Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean. Q&A where?

              If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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              See the menu above.

              Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman

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