How to make communication between two parties ... harder
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Adding more layers between the two parties, of course. We need to work with two applications that are developped by two companies, the design is simple: one application is accessing another using a url, the url must have a query string parameter which is dynamically generated. If two developers from the two companies are allowed to talk for a few seconds, then there won't be any misunderstanding. However, that is never going to happen. It is too important to leave it to the two developers. There are project managers, leads, analysts, architects from each company. And there are designated people who are responsible for communication on both sides. BTW, those people have MBAs or at least have taken various management/communication classes. Plans approved, documents written, meetings held, minutes taken, memos transmitted. In the end we only hear a loud scream "IT DOES NOT WORK!!!". Well, when looking at the application log file, there is no query string parameter passed from the other application.
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Adding more layers between the two parties, of course. We need to work with two applications that are developped by two companies, the design is simple: one application is accessing another using a url, the url must have a query string parameter which is dynamically generated. If two developers from the two companies are allowed to talk for a few seconds, then there won't be any misunderstanding. However, that is never going to happen. It is too important to leave it to the two developers. There are project managers, leads, analysts, architects from each company. And there are designated people who are responsible for communication on both sides. BTW, those people have MBAs or at least have taken various management/communication classes. Plans approved, documents written, meetings held, minutes taken, memos transmitted. In the end we only hear a loud scream "IT DOES NOT WORK!!!". Well, when looking at the application log file, there is no query string parameter passed from the other application.
See? Programming isn't an inventive process. Alternative reason - they're using the afore mentioned avian network, and are experiencing data loss. The query string was sent, but that particular packet is probably on its way to Buenos Aires.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
See? Programming isn't an inventive process. Alternative reason - they're using the afore mentioned avian network, and are experiencing data loss. The query string was sent, but that particular packet is probably on its way to Buenos Aires.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
avian network
Just mentioning of the avian network deserves a 5! That RFC is a joy to read. :thumbsup: But now it's upgraded: http://blogs.voxeo.com/speakingofstandards/2011/04/01/ietf-updates-ip-on-avian-carriers-for-ipv6-with-rfc-6214/[^] ;)
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Adding more layers between the two parties, of course. We need to work with two applications that are developped by two companies, the design is simple: one application is accessing another using a url, the url must have a query string parameter which is dynamically generated. If two developers from the two companies are allowed to talk for a few seconds, then there won't be any misunderstanding. However, that is never going to happen. It is too important to leave it to the two developers. There are project managers, leads, analysts, architects from each company. And there are designated people who are responsible for communication on both sides. BTW, those people have MBAs or at least have taken various management/communication classes. Plans approved, documents written, meetings held, minutes taken, memos transmitted. In the end we only hear a loud scream "IT DOES NOT WORK!!!". Well, when looking at the application log file, there is no query string parameter passed from the other application.
I have run into this a lot in my career. It comes down to there are too many planners and not enough doers. What I have found for the best method to get around this is to find out what developer is handling this at the other company and give them a call. That way the two developers can get it running and bypass all of the red tap. Sometimes it is easier to apologize than it is to get approval for something.
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Adding more layers between the two parties, of course. We need to work with two applications that are developped by two companies, the design is simple: one application is accessing another using a url, the url must have a query string parameter which is dynamically generated. If two developers from the two companies are allowed to talk for a few seconds, then there won't be any misunderstanding. However, that is never going to happen. It is too important to leave it to the two developers. There are project managers, leads, analysts, architects from each company. And there are designated people who are responsible for communication on both sides. BTW, those people have MBAs or at least have taken various management/communication classes. Plans approved, documents written, meetings held, minutes taken, memos transmitted. In the end we only hear a loud scream "IT DOES NOT WORK!!!". Well, when looking at the application log file, there is no query string parameter passed from the other application.
This is the bane of inter-company communication. If I were you, I'd form a committee to look into the problem comprised of at least one person from each interested entity.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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This is the bane of inter-company communication. If I were you, I'd form a committee to look into the problem comprised of at least one person from each interested entity.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Henry Minute wrote:
If I were you, I'd form a committee to look into the problem comprised of at least one person from each interested entity.
Only if I get to be chairman of the committee (come on, I deserve to be chairman of some committee). :)
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See? Programming isn't an inventive process. Alternative reason - they're using the afore mentioned avian network, and are experiencing data loss. The query string was sent, but that particular packet is probably on its way to Buenos Aires.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997One side was using an unladen swallow, and the other a turkey vulture. Obviously incompatible.
Software Zen:
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This is the bane of inter-company communication. If I were you, I'd form a committee to look into the problem comprised of at least one person from each interested entity.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
But who will oversee the committee?
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch
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Adding more layers between the two parties, of course. We need to work with two applications that are developped by two companies, the design is simple: one application is accessing another using a url, the url must have a query string parameter which is dynamically generated. If two developers from the two companies are allowed to talk for a few seconds, then there won't be any misunderstanding. However, that is never going to happen. It is too important to leave it to the two developers. There are project managers, leads, analysts, architects from each company. And there are designated people who are responsible for communication on both sides. BTW, those people have MBAs or at least have taken various management/communication classes. Plans approved, documents written, meetings held, minutes taken, memos transmitted. In the end we only hear a loud scream "IT DOES NOT WORK!!!". Well, when looking at the application log file, there is no query string parameter passed from the other application.
