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    This afternoon I had a cup of black tea with no milk, and soon after it I was very ill. I don't want to go into great detail here, but I spent a lot of time in the bathroom with what I imagine childbirth feels like. Given that I have some sort of undiagnosed chronic illness, does anybody have any clues as to what could've happened?

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      This afternoon I had a cup of black tea with no milk, and soon after it I was very ill. I don't want to go into great detail here, but I spent a lot of time in the bathroom with what I imagine childbirth feels like. Given that I have some sort of undiagnosed chronic illness, does anybody have any clues as to what could've happened?

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      Tea has very good laxative properties (black forest IIRC)

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        This afternoon I had a cup of black tea with no milk, and soon after it I was very ill. I don't want to go into great detail here, but I spent a lot of time in the bathroom with what I imagine childbirth feels like. Given that I have some sort of undiagnosed chronic illness, does anybody have any clues as to what could've happened?

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        My mother drinks her tea Black No Sugar. It is like drinking battery acid. It is no wonder you were ill. Probably all the tannins affecting you. I would suggest that if you are to drink black tea sans milk, at least add lemon. It will counter the astringent properties of the tea. (Alternatively drink green tea, much better for you).

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          This afternoon I had a cup of black tea with no milk, and soon after it I was very ill. I don't want to go into great detail here, but I spent a lot of time in the bathroom with what I imagine childbirth feels like. Given that I have some sort of undiagnosed chronic illness, does anybody have any clues as to what could've happened?

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          I do that all the time, to no ill effect. How strong was it?

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            Tea has very good laxative properties (black forest IIRC)

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            soap brain
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            leppie wrote:

            Tea has very good laxative properties (black forest IIRC)

            This was beyond that. My insides still feel like they've been shredded. I was mainly wondering if anybody's had or has known anybody to have a chronic illness that's strongly affected by tea.

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              I do that all the time, to no ill effect. How strong was it?

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              Isn't it a common Dutch thing? I remember working at some company many years ago and being made black tea by a Dutch woman who worked there because she said it was better like that if done properly. My grandmother also takes her tea black. And her men No. No.

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                My mother drinks her tea Black No Sugar. It is like drinking battery acid. It is no wonder you were ill. Probably all the tannins affecting you. I would suggest that if you are to drink black tea sans milk, at least add lemon. It will counter the astringent properties of the tea. (Alternatively drink green tea, much better for you).

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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                It is no wonder you were ill.

                Well, I've been chronically ill for a long time (maybe 10 months?), but this was easily the worst affected I've been the whole time.

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                  I do that all the time, to no ill effect. How strong was it?

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                  harold aptroot wrote:

                  I do that all the time, to no ill effect. How strong was it?

                  I don't think it was especially strong. When I reflect back on it I think I've been reacting to tea for a while. I had it without milk because I thought that maybe I'm lactose intolerant, although that's looking kinda unlikely now. I was just hoping that it would give me a clue for figuring out what this disease is.

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                    harold aptroot wrote:

                    I do that all the time, to no ill effect. How strong was it?

                    I don't think it was especially strong. When I reflect back on it I think I've been reacting to tea for a while. I had it without milk because I thought that maybe I'm lactose intolerant, although that's looking kinda unlikely now. I was just hoping that it would give me a clue for figuring out what this disease is.

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                    I haven't got a clue, sorry. I've never heard of anything like this with tea. Are you sure it was the tea?

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                      I haven't got a clue, sorry. I've never heard of anything like this with tea. Are you sure it was the tea?

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                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      Are you sure it was the tea?

                      I don't know. I have no idea what's wrong with me or what's causing it. I was just grasping at straws until I finally get to see a specialist.

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                        harold aptroot wrote:

                        Are you sure it was the tea?

                        I don't know. I have no idea what's wrong with me or what's causing it. I was just grasping at straws until I finally get to see a specialist.

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                        They'll do all sorts of tests, discover nothing and claim you have IBS. Happened to my missus years ago. Tried cutting out all sorts of stuff, had cameras shoved in every orifice they could find, removed various bits. Nothing made any difference until eventually they pronounced "you have IBS, you'll have to learn to live with it".

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                          My mother drinks her tea Black No Sugar. It is like drinking battery acid. It is no wonder you were ill. Probably all the tannins affecting you. I would suggest that if you are to drink black tea sans milk, at least add lemon. It will counter the astringent properties of the tea. (Alternatively drink green tea, much better for you).

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          My mother drinks her tea Black No Sugar.
                          It is like drinking battery acid.
                           
                          It is no wonder you were ill.
                           
                          Probably all the tannins affecting you.
                           
                          I would suggest that if you are to drink black tea sans milk, at least add lemon.
                          It will counter the astringent properties of the tea.

                          Pussy! I've been drinkning Black Tea with no suger for years and ithasn't affected me. I drink Espresso the same way.

                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          (Alternatively drink green tea, much better for you).

                          Super Pussy! Nancy Boys drink that shit.

                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            They'll do all sorts of tests, discover nothing and claim you have IBS. Happened to my missus years ago. Tried cutting out all sorts of stuff, had cameras shoved in every orifice they could find, removed various bits. Nothing made any difference until eventually they pronounced "you have IBS, you'll have to learn to live with it".

                            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                            Surely that'd be better than, say, Crohn's disease or coeliac disease or whatever?

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              My mother drinks her tea Black No Sugar.
                              It is like drinking battery acid.
                               
                              It is no wonder you were ill.
                               
                              Probably all the tannins affecting you.
                               
                              I would suggest that if you are to drink black tea sans milk, at least add lemon.
                              It will counter the astringent properties of the tea.

                              Pussy! I've been drinkning Black Tea with no suger for years and ithasn't affected me. I drink Espresso the same way.

                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              (Alternatively drink green tea, much better for you).

                              Super Pussy! Nancy Boys drink that shit.

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                              I do not drink Green Tea, it is for woman, hippies and the Chinese. So stick that in your didgeridoo and blow it. I do not drink coffee, can't abide the taste. As for tea, I drink Tea NATO[^]. Hot Strong Milk and Two.

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                                Surely that'd be better than, say, Crohn's disease or coeliac disease or whatever?

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                                I guess so. Depends if knowing what you have and possibly being able to treat / control it is better than having no idea what is going on or what to do for the best, even if what you know you have is potentially far more serious. Whatever happens, good luck. I know people who have been / are going through all of the above. None are pleasant, none are easy.

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                                  I do not drink Green Tea, it is for woman, hippies and the Chinese. So stick that in your didgeridoo and blow it. I do not drink coffee, can't abide the taste. As for tea, I drink Tea NATO[^]. Hot Strong Milk and Two.

                                  --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  I do not drink Green Tea, it is for woman, hippies and the Chinese.

                                  Ni hao!

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                                    This afternoon I had a cup of black tea with no milk, and soon after it I was very ill. I don't want to go into great detail here, but I spent a lot of time in the bathroom with what I imagine childbirth feels like. Given that I have some sort of undiagnosed chronic illness, does anybody have any clues as to what could've happened?

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                                    I probably drink about 10 pints of black tea per day, and have done for about 30 years. The only deleterious effect is staining of my teeth. I have a pint mug, and use a proper teapot with tea leaves, not bags - much better quality. There was some research[^] stating that black tea could help prevent or ameliorate type 2 diabetes. As I have type 2 diabetes, I would probably be dead by now without my tea!

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                                      My mother drinks her tea Black No Sugar. It is like drinking battery acid. It is no wonder you were ill. Probably all the tannins affecting you. I would suggest that if you are to drink black tea sans milk, at least add lemon. It will counter the astringent properties of the tea. (Alternatively drink green tea, much better for you).

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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      My mother drinks her tea Black No Sugar.

                                      An opportunity for a good upbringing which you should have taken advantage of.

                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      It is like drinking battery acid.

                                      I've been to England - (honestly) make your tea into 5h*t. Much to strong. To make up for it, you fill it full of additional crap to kill the taste (the most horrific being milk). To make it even drinkable it had to be mixed something like 1:2 with hot water. The steps to making good tea:

                                      1. Buy decent tea
                                      2. Boil water
                                      3. Add ca. 1/2 - 1 tsp/tea per 220ml water cup
                                      4. Wait until virtually all leaves to sink to bottom*
                                      5. It is now ready to drink**

                                      Science Interlude: Further motivation not to turn tea into an abomination with cow-squeezings. Tea is amongst the riches sources of (natural) fluoride. Adding milk, however, allows it to form Calcium Fluoride (CaF2), a very stable and insoluble material. Fluoride is none to be good for preventing tooth decay as well as remineralizing tooth enamel. Proper drinking of tea would cause a noticeable improvement in dental health. So screw tradition. If you want a cuppa, make it something to be proud of - not to be hidden with milk and sugar! * This is called "brewing" ** ready means AS IS

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

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                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        My mother drinks her tea Black No Sugar.

                                        An opportunity for a good upbringing which you should have taken advantage of.

                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        It is like drinking battery acid.

                                        I've been to England - (honestly) make your tea into 5h*t. Much to strong. To make up for it, you fill it full of additional crap to kill the taste (the most horrific being milk). To make it even drinkable it had to be mixed something like 1:2 with hot water. The steps to making good tea:

                                        1. Buy decent tea
                                        2. Boil water
                                        3. Add ca. 1/2 - 1 tsp/tea per 220ml water cup
                                        4. Wait until virtually all leaves to sink to bottom*
                                        5. It is now ready to drink**

                                        Science Interlude: Further motivation not to turn tea into an abomination with cow-squeezings. Tea is amongst the riches sources of (natural) fluoride. Adding milk, however, allows it to form Calcium Fluoride (CaF2), a very stable and insoluble material. Fluoride is none to be good for preventing tooth decay as well as remineralizing tooth enamel. Proper drinking of tea would cause a noticeable improvement in dental health. So screw tradition. If you want a cuppa, make it something to be proud of - not to be hidden with milk and sugar! * This is called "brewing" ** ready means AS IS

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                        I've been to England - (honestly) make your tea into 5h*t. Much to strong.

                                        Although;

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                                        Brewing tea longer increases the level of antioxidants called flavonoids, also found in fruit and vegetables, which may help in the fight against heart disease and cancer by neutralising harmful chemicals in the blood.

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                                          This afternoon I had a cup of black tea with no milk, and soon after it I was very ill. I don't want to go into great detail here, but I spent a lot of time in the bathroom with what I imagine childbirth feels like. Given that I have some sort of undiagnosed chronic illness, does anybody have any clues as to what could've happened?

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                                          Ravel wrote: "Well, I've been chronically ill for a long time (maybe 10 months?)" Dear Ravel, I cannot believe that in all your responses in this thread you do not once mention that you have sought medical care; please tell me you have, or, if you haven't ... well ... that's none of my business ... it's your life ... but if you haven't sought medical care, I want to give you my straight opinion that you need help and counselling about that. best, Bill

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