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  • L Lost User

    Mostly when I write C programs for old 8 bit computers. The BAT then is a kind of simple makefile (another thing the youngsters usually don't know anything about) and also handles the deployment of the compiled program to the emulator(s).

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    Mike Hankey
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    I've been using the make file that gets automagically created by the AVRStudio 5.1 but am looking to tweek, or just generally learn more about them. I googled quite a bit but have not found any good tutorials any sugs?

    VS2010/AVR Studio 5.0 ToDo Manager Extension

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      Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

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      RugbyLeague
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      I write Windows services which run .Bat files :-O

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        I have been known to write the odd .bat file, as well as PowerShell scripts.

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        Lost User
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        What's odd about them?

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

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          Lost User
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          I write the odd one now and agian, well cmd files anyway, I tend to use a few that I keep around more than writing me ones though - like moving large numbers of files around and renaming etc. Right tool for the right job, as my father used to say. Not sure I liked it that he called me a tool, but there you go.

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Yes Pete, but alas you are venerable and aged, like me. I bet them young whippersnappers don't!

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            Pete OHanlon
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            I prefer to think that we are seasoned and debonairre.

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              I prefer to think that we are seasoned and debonairre.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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              Dalek Dave
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              You're Hired!

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              • L Lost User

                I write the odd one now and agian, well cmd files anyway, I tend to use a few that I keep around more than writing me ones though - like moving large numbers of files around and renaming etc. Right tool for the right job, as my father used to say. Not sure I liked it that he called me a tool, but there you go.

                MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                Dalek Dave
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                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                Not sure I liked it that he called me a tool, but there you go.

                :-D

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                  --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                  Tim Groven
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                  I don't by choice, but have to at work to support old code that uses them, and code from another company that uses them.

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                    Simon_Whale
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                    I've used it twice last year, took me a while to remember how to pass arguments in though.

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                    • M Mike Hankey

                      I've been using the make file that gets automagically created by the AVRStudio 5.1 but am looking to tweek, or just generally learn more about them. I googled quite a bit but have not found any good tutorials any sugs?

                      VS2010/AVR Studio 5.0 ToDo Manager Extension

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                      Lost User
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                      A makefile is nothing more than a batch file with a command line to call the compiler for each source file, then one or more command lines calling the linker and perhaps some commands to deploy or copy the results. An IDE usually lets you edit all kinds of compiler and linker options and then generates the makefile from the contents of your project and those options. Or you can simply write the makefile yourself with any simple editor like wordpad. You just have to know how to call the compiler and linker and what options and parameters your compiler needs or supports. It's just like writing command lines in the console. The makefile only saves you from typing all this every time you want to build your project. I guess, all this should be documented in the compiler's and linker's documentation. Edit: Usually the compiler includes some tool to process the makefile. My simple C compiler for old 8 bit machines does not, so I use plain vanilla .BAT files, which does not really make much of a difference. Whenever I want to build my project, I simply call something like 'make.bat' at the command line and look what kind of results I get in the in the console. Edit^2: I just dug this[^] out in MSDN. It describes how to build from the command line with makefiles and NMAKE. NMAKE is a little more powerful than a simple batch and the commands are not simple command lines anymore, but it's still very much the same idea.

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                        I've used it twice last year, took me a while to remember how to pass arguments in though.

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        I am lazy. I could use a streamwriter within the code, call it and then discard it. But I don't. I just write the .bat and .txt and get call them within a shell in c# or vb. Bad habits die hard!

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                          megaadam
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                          Rarely I do, yes. But I don't bat an eye when I have to.

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                            --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                            S Houghtelin
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                            Funny you should ask, I didn't write any but I got my new desktop this morning, and and used a couple to set up some of my complier envirionments. And I used the one to show hidden devices in the device manager to clean the crud out.

                            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              I am lazy. I could use a streamwriter within the code, call it and then discard it. But I don't. I just write the .bat and .txt and get call them within a shell in c# or vb. Bad habits die hard!

                              --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                              Simon_Whale
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                              I used it to run a XLST to PDF conversion application, using the commandline tool it take around 8 milliseconds to create the PDF and with .NET managed code upto 15 seconds decpending on the report. So it was a no brainer moment on which to use.

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                Rage
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                                Yes, I keep modifying my "Autoexec.bat". And my "Config.sys". :-D

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                  --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                  Rage
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                                  He he - list of files in the current directory ? Nothing quicker than:

                                  dir /b >> list.txt

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                    Slacker007
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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files?

                                    I do from time to time. Some things, never die.

                                    "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                      --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                      BobJanova
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                                      I generally only use them for trivial things, otherwise I'll write a short command line C# tool. I like the security of using a real language, and the .Net Framework's always in memory on my machine anyway so execution time is trivial.

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                        --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                        krumia
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                                        We do, for automating lots of things. Setting up development environments, client installations/deployments. That old bats will not die for a while.

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                          Lost User
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                                          I usually prefer using .bat files to do repetitive and trivial things. Btw, shouldn't this post be titled "Scripting question"?

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