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  • W Wjousts

    http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27605/?ref=rss[^]

    Yet a new effort by researchers at MIT’s Lifelong Kindergarten group will attempt to create a programming environment suitable for toddlers. It's hard to imagine that any but the most precocious children would be able to interact with Scratch Jr. before the age of two, but as Heather Chaplin reports for KQED, the new software will be aimed squarely at children who have barely learned their colors, much less how to read.

    I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;P I kid!

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    clientSurfer
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    Wjousts wrote:

    I kid!

    Yes, yes... Visual Basic is the best platform ever.... ... ... FOR ME TO POOP ON!

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      It's the standard +/- 10 years. More than 10 years older and they're stuck in their ways, more than ten years younger and they're inexperienced fad-boyz


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      Lost User
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      :thumbsup:

      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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      • W Wjousts

        http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27605/?ref=rss[^]

        Yet a new effort by researchers at MIT’s Lifelong Kindergarten group will attempt to create a programming environment suitable for toddlers. It's hard to imagine that any but the most precocious children would be able to interact with Scratch Jr. before the age of two, but as Heather Chaplin reports for KQED, the new software will be aimed squarely at children who have barely learned their colors, much less how to read.

        I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;P I kid!

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        wizardzz
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        Great, now the Lounge will have to be BSS...

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          It's the standard +/- 10 years. More than 10 years older and they're stuck in their ways, more than ten years younger and they're inexperienced fad-boyz


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          leppie
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          And when they are the same age and useless?

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          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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          • L leppie

            And when they are the same age and useless?

            IronScheme
            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            leppie wrote:

            And when they are the same age and useless?

            Liberal application of troll kicks.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            • W wizardzz

              Great, now the Lounge will have to be BSS...

              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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              AspDotNetDev
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              Just so long as we never have to be FSS.

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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              • W Wjousts

                http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27605/?ref=rss[^]

                Yet a new effort by researchers at MIT’s Lifelong Kindergarten group will attempt to create a programming environment suitable for toddlers. It's hard to imagine that any but the most precocious children would be able to interact with Scratch Jr. before the age of two, but as Heather Chaplin reports for KQED, the new software will be aimed squarely at children who have barely learned their colors, much less how to read.

                I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;P I kid!

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                Andy Brummer
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                I think I'd prefer maintaining their code over some of the enterprisy stuff I'm working with. :-D

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                • W Wjousts

                  http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27605/?ref=rss[^]

                  Yet a new effort by researchers at MIT’s Lifelong Kindergarten group will attempt to create a programming environment suitable for toddlers. It's hard to imagine that any but the most precocious children would be able to interact with Scratch Jr. before the age of two, but as Heather Chaplin reports for KQED, the new software will be aimed squarely at children who have barely learned their colors, much less how to read.

                  I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;P I kid!

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                  Wjousts wrote:

                  I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;-P
                   
                  I kid!

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                    Wjousts wrote:

                    I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;-P
                     
                    I kid!

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                    No, that would be iKid. Obviously. :rolleyes:

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                    • W Wjousts

                      http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27605/?ref=rss[^]

                      Yet a new effort by researchers at MIT’s Lifelong Kindergarten group will attempt to create a programming environment suitable for toddlers. It's hard to imagine that any but the most precocious children would be able to interact with Scratch Jr. before the age of two, but as Heather Chaplin reports for KQED, the new software will be aimed squarely at children who have barely learned their colors, much less how to read.

                      I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;P I kid!

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                      Vivi Chellappa
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                      Wjousts wrote:

                      I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;-P

                      They don't call it Visual Basic. They call it Object-Oriented Programming. Just like kids play with blocks (of the LEGO kind) and assemble them into things like machinery and buildings, O-O Programmers take objects and assemble them into programs. At least, that is the concept. So, at a conceptual level, O-O Programming is akin to playing with LEGO blocks. But I don't expect O-O Programmers to accept that. I can live with that. Disclaimer: I am not a VB programmer but just an observer of the behavior of code monkeys.

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                      • W Wjousts

                        http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27605/?ref=rss[^]

                        Yet a new effort by researchers at MIT’s Lifelong Kindergarten group will attempt to create a programming environment suitable for toddlers. It's hard to imagine that any but the most precocious children would be able to interact with Scratch Jr. before the age of two, but as Heather Chaplin reports for KQED, the new software will be aimed squarely at children who have barely learned their colors, much less how to read.

                        I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;P I kid!

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                        Fabio Franco
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                        Wjousts wrote:

                        Too young to code?

                        Definitelly. I usually don't make this bold statements, but at that younger than two, I think we should keep our kids with little contact with that stuff. My kid which is 4 years old is already an addict on computers and I think this might be because he spent too much time around electronics at young age. Sometimes all he wants to do is play with computers or the like. In my point of view this hurts the development of good social behavior. Toddlers pretty much absorb everything they see and have contact with. If they spend too much time on computers, it will become part of their lives and it will be very difficult for them to let it go and be open for other experiences.

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                        • D DaveAuld

                          No, that is the next level up. You have Small Basic[^] and for games Kodu[^] :)

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                          Things are so different now. It seems harder to get kids into programming. The problem is that they have all these super fancy online games for kids now. My daughter is playing Jump Start and Animal Jam. The graphics and capabilities of these programs are pretty advanced, and they even let kids 'chat'. Then I tried to get her to try and make her own game in Kodu. She was bored...fast! The games are so basic, don't respond well, and look pretty bad in comparison. I remember working on my TI-99/4A back in 1981, programming in TI-BASIC. I got so into it, because the final output was not that different from the games that were available on cartridges, or even the Atari 2600. Today there is such a huge gap between 'basic' games and what is available even for free online, it's harder to get kids interested in something like Kodu. When I told my daughter about it, she was initially excited, even came up with all sorts of plans for a game. Then she tried Kodu and realized that almost none of it was even possible. She hasn't touched Kodu since, and is waiting for me to learn game programming to make her game for her...she'll be waiting a while! Any suggestions people have for getting kids excited about learning programming...I'd love to hear it!

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                          • V Vivi Chellappa

                            Wjousts wrote:

                            I thought there already was a programming environment for toddlers. Didn't they call it "Visual Basic"? ;-P

                            They don't call it Visual Basic. They call it Object-Oriented Programming. Just like kids play with blocks (of the LEGO kind) and assemble them into things like machinery and buildings, O-O Programmers take objects and assemble them into programs. At least, that is the concept. So, at a conceptual level, O-O Programming is akin to playing with LEGO blocks. But I don't expect O-O Programmers to accept that. I can live with that. Disclaimer: I am not a VB programmer but just an observer of the behavior of code monkeys.

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                            Narf the Mouse
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                            Legos are awesome.

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