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  • G glennPattonWork3

    Hi, What are the views of the Code Project Readers to the Raspberry Pi. You seem to get a lot for your money, but I am a little worried that the idea of it being Educational only is going to get lost and at least some of them will be replacing PC104's in some applications (Embedded Control mainly). They have put in some protection against that happening (click box if not for profit etc. when down loading). Glenn

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    0bx
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    They are just prototypes, so they're not intended for mass production I think. The idea is to put them in a case and sell them with "MOAR POWAR AND RAMZ" eventually, but we have to keep our fingers crossed for that. I'm sure it's far from easy for a small start-up to have their idea make it to the shelves, especially if it's hardware. Personally I also like to get my hands on the http://ninjablocks.com/[^]. :)

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      They are just prototypes, so they're not intended for mass production I think. The idea is to put them in a case and sell them with "MOAR POWAR AND RAMZ" eventually, but we have to keep our fingers crossed for that. I'm sure it's far from easy for a small start-up to have their idea make it to the shelves, especially if it's hardware. Personally I also like to get my hands on the http://ninjablocks.com/[^]. :)

      Giraffes are not real.

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      glennPattonWork3
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      Look cool!

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        Same here, my ****** colleague managed to get two of them from Farnell, I could only register my interest. (we all know what will happen if I get one little things like sleep will go out the window for about a month!)

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        Anthony Mushrow
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        It was meant to only be 1 per person from the first batch. I've heard that other people ordered two but one was to be delivered around the start of march and the other nearer to the end of April.

        -SK Genius

        Vehicle Simulation Demo - New and Improved!

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          They are just prototypes, so they're not intended for mass production I think. The idea is to put them in a case and sell them with "MOAR POWAR AND RAMZ" eventually, but we have to keep our fingers crossed for that. I'm sure it's far from easy for a small start-up to have their idea make it to the shelves, especially if it's hardware. Personally I also like to get my hands on the http://ninjablocks.com/[^]. :)

          Giraffes are not real.

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          Anthony Mushrow
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          0bx wrote:

          They are just prototypes, so they're not intended for mass production I think.

          They are, they may change a little but the main release (with actual cases and peripherals) should be later this year. They've released these batches now so that everything is settled for the main release. I doubt they'd add more power but more RAM would be nice. Both Model A and B will both have 256MB now though, which should be enough if we're honest.

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          • A Anthony Mushrow

            0bx wrote:

            They are just prototypes, so they're not intended for mass production I think.

            They are, they may change a little but the main release (with actual cases and peripherals) should be later this year. They've released these batches now so that everything is settled for the main release. I doubt they'd add more power but more RAM would be nice. Both Model A and B will both have 256MB now though, which should be enough if we're honest.

            -SK Genius

            Vehicle Simulation Demo - New and Improved!

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            glennPattonWork3
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            I want one! NOW :omg:

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              I want one! NOW :omg:

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              Anthony Mushrow
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              Well, unless you pay a hugely inflated price on eBay next week you'll have to wait until the end of April like the rest of us.

              -SK Genius

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              • A Anthony Mushrow

                Well, unless you pay a hugely inflated price on eBay next week you'll have to wait until the end of April like the rest of us.

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                Vehicle Simulation Demo - New and Improved!

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                glennPattonWork3
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                Darn, I want to play now!!

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                • G glennPattonWork3

                  Hi, What are the views of the Code Project Readers to the Raspberry Pi. You seem to get a lot for your money, but I am a little worried that the idea of it being Educational only is going to get lost and at least some of them will be replacing PC104's in some applications (Embedded Control mainly). They have put in some protection against that happening (click box if not for profit etc. when down loading). Glenn

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                  MattBeavis
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                  I have a delivery date for the w/c 14/05/2012 which seems like ages away. It's a fantastic piece of hardware which is going to be used in a variety of ways, for experimenting with will be its main use or a silent HTPC / XBMC, or just a very cool internet machine connected to the telly. The hardware is great and its a fantastic price, I will probably end up with 2 or 3 of these devices around the house when they become more easily available. What else can you possibly get for anywhere near the price of £25? The idea of getting these devices into schools is simply fantastic, getting children involved in actually programming rather than using windows and word is going to be a huge leap forward and should secure the future for many more programmers in the years to come. Being able to spend £25 (plus keyboard/monitor or TV/mouse) for a fully functional machine that you can give to a child at home to experiment with is going to open their eyes to the world outside of windows and hopefully get them away from those mind numbing consoles. Gone are the days of using the 6502 with a hex keypad to program something :( Oh and releasing these with no case is also a great idea, its a great school project for the the design classes to design and fabricate a case for them.

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                  • M MattBeavis

                    I have a delivery date for the w/c 14/05/2012 which seems like ages away. It's a fantastic piece of hardware which is going to be used in a variety of ways, for experimenting with will be its main use or a silent HTPC / XBMC, or just a very cool internet machine connected to the telly. The hardware is great and its a fantastic price, I will probably end up with 2 or 3 of these devices around the house when they become more easily available. What else can you possibly get for anywhere near the price of £25? The idea of getting these devices into schools is simply fantastic, getting children involved in actually programming rather than using windows and word is going to be a huge leap forward and should secure the future for many more programmers in the years to come. Being able to spend £25 (plus keyboard/monitor or TV/mouse) for a fully functional machine that you can give to a child at home to experiment with is going to open their eyes to the world outside of windows and hopefully get them away from those mind numbing consoles. Gone are the days of using the 6502 with a hex keypad to program something :( Oh and releasing these with no case is also a great idea, its a great school project for the the design classes to design and fabricate a case for them.

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                    glennPattonWork3
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                    Mind you, it did force you to think logically and not have the joys of intelli(or lack of)sense and when I saw the specs of it my initial thought was who is going to want 104 cards now? its cheap, designed to be fool proof and more than powerful enough to control some of the automation I have dealt with! My first thought was how are School Kids (the intended users) going to get any? Glenn

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                      Mind you, it did force you to think logically and not have the joys of intelli(or lack of)sense and when I saw the specs of it my initial thought was who is going to want 104 cards now? its cheap, designed to be fool proof and more than powerful enough to control some of the automation I have dealt with! My first thought was how are School Kids (the intended users) going to get any? Glenn

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                      I am pretty sure that once the PI gets into full production of this device an educational establishment will be able to get these in bulk, its just a matter of time. With IT being reformed in British Schools we are also going to see a fantastic opportunity for the Pi to become part of the education system. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/jade-lane/it-education-gove-reforms-better-late-than-never_b_1212595.html[^] How many kids leaving school even know what a AND gate is, let alone how to make one with a bunch of components ?

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                      • M MattBeavis

                        I am pretty sure that once the PI gets into full production of this device an educational establishment will be able to get these in bulk, its just a matter of time. With IT being reformed in British Schools we are also going to see a fantastic opportunity for the Pi to become part of the education system. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/jade-lane/it-education-gove-reforms-better-late-than-never_b_1212595.html[^] How many kids leaving school even know what a AND gate is, let alone how to make one with a bunch of components ?

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                        glennPattonWork3
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                        MattBeavis wrote:

                        How many kids leaving school even know what a AND gate is, let alone how to make one with a bunch of components ?

                        I did! :) mostly because I did Physics & Electronics, I must admit they were a black box to me until I did first year analogue electronics at Uni though!

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                        • M MattBeavis

                          I have a delivery date for the w/c 14/05/2012 which seems like ages away. It's a fantastic piece of hardware which is going to be used in a variety of ways, for experimenting with will be its main use or a silent HTPC / XBMC, or just a very cool internet machine connected to the telly. The hardware is great and its a fantastic price, I will probably end up with 2 or 3 of these devices around the house when they become more easily available. What else can you possibly get for anywhere near the price of £25? The idea of getting these devices into schools is simply fantastic, getting children involved in actually programming rather than using windows and word is going to be a huge leap forward and should secure the future for many more programmers in the years to come. Being able to spend £25 (plus keyboard/monitor or TV/mouse) for a fully functional machine that you can give to a child at home to experiment with is going to open their eyes to the world outside of windows and hopefully get them away from those mind numbing consoles. Gone are the days of using the 6502 with a hex keypad to program something :( Oh and releasing these with no case is also a great idea, its a great school project for the the design classes to design and fabricate a case for them.

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                          An amazing project with a well defined and specific goal. :-D According to their foundation's website the goal is to encourage kids to develop programming skills in the UK. Obviously what works there could work elsewhere. Using an ARM IP core in the SOC is a especially good idea since it will make porting the code the kids write to commercial platforms a lot easier. What I find especially amazing is that it took only one trace cut and one blue wire to go from alpha to release boards. (Hardware can be edited too!) The buccaneers on ebay, ought to be called what they are, scalpers. It might be legal to re-sell the boards at inflated prices but totally subverts the principles of the project. They obviously don't get the point.:thumbsdown: I'll be happy when mine comes in May. It looks like a cool device to run as a small web server. I have a Cisco USB Wifi I can plug in it. My family's Android phones ought to be able to connect to it through the AP just fine.

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                            An amazing project with a well defined and specific goal. :-D According to their foundation's website the goal is to encourage kids to develop programming skills in the UK. Obviously what works there could work elsewhere. Using an ARM IP core in the SOC is a especially good idea since it will make porting the code the kids write to commercial platforms a lot easier. What I find especially amazing is that it took only one trace cut and one blue wire to go from alpha to release boards. (Hardware can be edited too!) The buccaneers on ebay, ought to be called what they are, scalpers. It might be legal to re-sell the boards at inflated prices but totally subverts the principles of the project. They obviously don't get the point.:thumbsdown: I'll be happy when mine comes in May. It looks like a cool device to run as a small web server. I have a Cisco USB Wifi I can plug in it. My family's Android phones ought to be able to connect to it through the AP just fine.

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                            glennPattonWork3
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                            I was thinking Home Security for mine, now where did I put that Tesla coil..... :) Oh hardware being edited it happens more than you think, more often than not the new improved version is basically a re-spin of the board with a track moved (you know who you are & you are probably reading this!)

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                            • A Anthony Mushrow

                              Well it'll never be Educational only, as hobbyists will use them for all sorts of things and people have been speculating about using it at a little Media Centre but I don't see that as a problem. The more people that buy them, the more funds they will have to put the Raspberry Pi in the hands of somebody who could really benefit from it.

                              -SK Genius

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                              Jeremy David Thomson
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                              I could buy a 486SX PC for the price of an Archimedes CD-ROM drive back in the day. Turnabout is fair play, so now the economies of scale that favoured the PC over every other computer work for this little cell-phone SOC based computer. I hope RISCOS gets a new breath of life, there may be unused educational software moldering on the shelves of UK schools. "Your project Timmy is to port Zarch onto the Rasberry Pi". Actually, that could happen anyway, isn't David Braben involved in the RasbPi project?

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                                glennPattonWork wrote:

                                What are the views of the Code Project Readers to the Raspberry Pi.

                                'Reported': ordinary men like me cannot get one.

                                Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                DarthDana
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                                Might not be true. Newark Electronics has them in the web catalog. They just don't have any right now. As I understand things, the initial batch was expected to run out very quickly but they will be continuously avalable starting sometime in April

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