This is just silly and seems hypocritical
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Now that I bothered to read the article...
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Only to those who already agree with such bigotry
First as I already noted - the US specifically allows free speech. Second the content of the previous religious ceremony was specifically meant to target non-believers. As such that ceremony is offensive.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Which makes them petty and stupid.
I am guessing that you are not aware of the very real legal (actually illegal) actions that the sheriff is taking in the county in an attempt to surpress, seemingly, any non-christian ideology at any level. That is petty, stupid and hopefully criminal.
jschell wrote:
First as I already noted - the US specifically allows free speech.
Certainly. All speech, including that of a religious (or anti-religious) nature. As such, that doesn't mean the speech can't be called what it is: bigotry.
jschell wrote:
I am guessing that you are not aware of the very real legal (actually illegal) actions that the sheriff is taking in the county in an attempt to surpress, seemingly, any non-christian ideology at any level.
No! I was certainly not aware of that. I'd kick that guy in the head if I knew that. That is indeed stupid.
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You did catch the bit where these people wanted you removed from the county or incarcerated if you disagree with them right? It had a political meaning that is pretty hard to miss, even if it was supposedly a religious observance of some kind. As such a similarly petty PR stunt is pulled in response to it. And as a note, the majority of instances where atheists push for the removal of religious speech is when someone is doing so with government authority behind it. If you as Ahmed Zahmed want to say something about your beliefs, I've got no issue with it. If you were a school principle, sat down all the kids in your school and told them they'd all burn in hell if they didn't believe what you told them, then I'd be right pissed. If you decide to take some mass produced religious monument of no historical significance and put it on government property, then I've got another problem. Put it in your own yard? No real issue, good luck mowing around it. Beyond that kind of thing you always have the militant idiots who actually do aspire to the kind of thing you blame the lot of us for, but I've cracked more than one of them upside the head with whatever was handy to get them to shut up long enough to explain the concept of freedom of religion to them. But I'm meaner to people who nominally agree with me and are idiots than folks I don't share much with.
Yes, I remember reading that, but it's a "blessing" asking God to cause it to happen. Not a gov't directive. As for what the rest of what you say, I'm in perfect agreement. I agree that the gov't can't give even the appearance of authority to some religious whatnot, and I don't want it to either. That for me is also part of religious freedom.
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You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
Atheists use ‘unholy water’ to ‘unbless’ Florida highway[^] Since atheists don't believe in God or the Divine nor in the Holy or in Blessings, how can they believe in anything "unholy" or in "unblessing"? If you are "undoing" something doesn't that mean you give credence to the "doing" of a thing? Just a thought. I don't really care one way or the other. Just seems contradictory and hypocritical to me for an atheist to "undo" anything that a religionist "does".
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You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunThis people really don't know what they are doing. To be real atheists you must have to be understand the concept of religion.
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That was the aim. All this talk of religion is heavy.
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All this talk of religion is heavy.
I'm a few days late on this thread, and just looking for a place to jump in feet first. Awwww, forget it ;P
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