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  • L Lost User

    ahmed zahmed wrote:

    Zimmerman says it was self defense.

    They moment he admitted to following Martin, he lost his plea of self defense.

    ahmed zahmed wrote:

    And the cops who investigated it at the time and the DA all concurred that the evidence backed Zimmerman's story.

    According to Wikipedia, the cop who is investigating this case was already reprimanded for racial bias in another case.

    ahmed zahmed wrote:

    For all we know it was an accidental shooting where the gun went off during the struggle.

    We still do not know how a gun can go off accidentally exactly in the chest, that too when the shooter was face down on the ground and the the victim was on top of him.

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    He was following until they told him not to. He was returning to his car when Martin attacked. Witnesses saw him being pummeled by Martin. The gun went off, during that fight.

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
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      Of course not, but that's not what happened. Martin attacked him, was beating him up, banging his head on the ground, and broke his nose. Apparently there was a struggle with the gun. Zimmerman says it was self defense. And the cops who investigated it at the time and the DA all concurred that the evidence backed Zimmerman's story. For all we know it was an accidental shooting where the gun went off during the struggle.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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      bVagadishnu
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      There was a clip on TV of Zimmerman walking into the police station. No visible marks on his face. Does not jibe with

      ahmed zahmed wrote:

      Martin attacked him, was beating him up, banging his head on the ground, and broke his nose.

      Schenectady? What am I doing in Schenectady?

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        mark merrens wrote:

        it means that his story didn't stack up

        Not now. If it goes to court now, it will be to appease all the race-baiters and white-haters. Then we can get ready for the riots when he's found not guilty.

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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        Sahir Shah
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        @ ahmed zahmed. You remind me of the character played by Terry Crews in "White Chicks" :D

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        Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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          There was a clip on TV of Zimmerman walking into the police station. No visible marks on his face. Does not jibe with

          ahmed zahmed wrote:

          Martin attacked him, was beating him up, banging his head on the ground, and broke his nose.

          Schenectady? What am I doing in Schenectady?

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          He was cleaned-up by medical crews on the scene. His medical records from the hospital will confirm his broken nose. The testimony of cops on the scene and medical personnel on the scene will also confirm his injuries. Or not.

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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          • L Lost User

            The shooting was not based on suspicion, but the chase was. Zimmerman had specifically asked the people in the neighborhood to lookout for "young black boys". This stereotyping behavior is what landed him in this trouble neck deep. I'm not advocating execution to this guy, may be he was overzealous and wanted to prove his worth, but the self-defense plea is unacceptable. If you follow someone unnecessarily and without acceptable reasons and he beats you up, then it means you deserve it. At least I would have done the same if he had followed me.

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            Shameel wrote:

            If you follow someone unnecessarily and without acceptable reasons and he beats you up, then it means you deserve it.

            No he doesn't! Nobody deserved what happened here.

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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