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    Michael Bergman
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    Microsoft is changing their Visual Studio 11 User Interface[^] because of all your whining and complaining. Thank you.

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    For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

    To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

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      Microsoft is changing their Visual Studio 11 User Interface[^] because of all your whining and complaining. Thank you.

      m.bergman

      For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

      To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

      In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron

      I am not a chatbot

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      Pete OHanlon
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      A couple of points. 1. This story has already been covered here in the Insider News, as well as being done to death elsewhere on the forums. 2. People did not whine and complain about the interface. They raised legitimate concerns. Treating them as though they are petulant children who can be talked down to is the type of condescension that got Microsoft into this trouble in the first place. When a seasoned professional who uses your tools all day long tells you that you are going to make them less productive, you'd better believe they have valid reasons and that, perhaps, you don't know better than they do.

      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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        Microsoft is changing their Visual Studio 11 User Interface[^] because of all your whining and complaining. Thank you.

        m.bergman

        For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

        To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

        In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron

        I am not a chatbot

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        bitterskittles
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        not listening to me obviously. I wanted Metro to be optional on desktop, like Windows Media Center, now it's spreading to the apps that I frequently use :mad:

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          A couple of points. 1. This story has already been covered here in the Insider News, as well as being done to death elsewhere on the forums. 2. People did not whine and complain about the interface. They raised legitimate concerns. Treating them as though they are petulant children who can be talked down to is the type of condescension that got Microsoft into this trouble in the first place. When a seasoned professional who uses your tools all day long tells you that you are going to make them less productive, you'd better believe they have valid reasons and that, perhaps, you don't know better than they do.

          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

          CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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          A couple of rebuttal points. 1. I have not seen this story covered or anyplace else. I don't generally go to the soapbox so it may have escaped my attention there. 2. I am with the whining and complaining group regarding the VS11 interface. I think I've even posted by objections to it around here someplace. Microsoft has always talked down to the developers. I still remember those helpful diatribes from Mike Blaszczak in the golden age of MFC. Frankly, some developers need to be talked down to, that is to say, they need a little humility. 3. Finally, I wasn't concerned with the changes so much as the article itself: how it was written, its choice of words. Hence, the title of my message. I am just so impressed with how opacity of the language used by some "technical" writers, specifically, the use of "high energy" and "low energy" as opposed to "exciting" and "boring".

          m.bergman

          For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

          To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

          In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron

          I am not a chatbot

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            A couple of rebuttal points. 1. I have not seen this story covered or anyplace else. I don't generally go to the soapbox so it may have escaped my attention there. 2. I am with the whining and complaining group regarding the VS11 interface. I think I've even posted by objections to it around here someplace. Microsoft has always talked down to the developers. I still remember those helpful diatribes from Mike Blaszczak in the golden age of MFC. Frankly, some developers need to be talked down to, that is to say, they need a little humility. 3. Finally, I wasn't concerned with the changes so much as the article itself: how it was written, its choice of words. Hence, the title of my message. I am just so impressed with how opacity of the language used by some "technical" writers, specifically, the use of "high energy" and "low energy" as opposed to "exciting" and "boring".

            m.bergman

            For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

            To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

            In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron

            I am not a chatbot

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Michael Bergman wrote:

            1. I have not seen this story covered or anyplace else. I don't generally go to the soapbox so it may have escaped my attention there.

            In this very forum. Link[^]. It was also posted out in the newsletter, so you should have received it there.

            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

            CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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