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  • D David Cunningham

    Congratulations Christian, it must feel great to get the weight off. Dr. Robert Lustig, a professor at the University of California at San Francisco put together this video talking about the health issues related to Fructose, and in particular the effects of high fructose corn syrup found in just about everything sweetened these days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM[^] It's a big eye opener. For me, I've basically found the only way I can control my weight is to avoid refined carbohydrates, and that includes sugar. Over the last 6 months I'm down 36lbs and back to a healthy size and weight which feels fantastic. I agree with you about Sugar, particularly in North America they literally put sweeteners in everything and the results are pretty evident. I don't think XBox is causing the obesity problem, I think Coke is. D

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    I first heard of all this no-sugar stuff from Smitha, who said she got it from you (apparently it was the rage in CodeProject a few months ago). About the same time, CG visits me and tells me he is on the no-sugar diet too. Of course I am happy to hear all this while continuing to consume huge quantities of sugar because of my super-human metabolism. :-D

    Regards, Nish


    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      I first heard of all this no-sugar stuff from Smitha, who said she got it from you (apparently it was the rage in CodeProject a few months ago). About the same time, CG visits me and tells me he is on the no-sugar diet too. Of course I am happy to hear all this while continuing to consume huge quantities of sugar because of my super-human metabolism. :-D

      Regards, Nish


      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      My theory is that spicey counters sweet to help you lose weight. I need to get back on the spice train.

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      • C Christian Graus

        So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Bassam Abdul Baki
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        Crap! The only cereal I like is Frosted Flakes. They're grrrreat!

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          Laid AND caramel sauce! woohoo!

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          • C Christian Graus

            So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Andy Brummer
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            I eat a "paleo" diet and cutting out sugar is a big part of it. Vegetables and fruits are the biggest source of carbohydrates in my diet.

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            • D David Cunningham

              Congratulations Christian, it must feel great to get the weight off. Dr. Robert Lustig, a professor at the University of California at San Francisco put together this video talking about the health issues related to Fructose, and in particular the effects of high fructose corn syrup found in just about everything sweetened these days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM[^] It's a big eye opener. For me, I've basically found the only way I can control my weight is to avoid refined carbohydrates, and that includes sugar. Over the last 6 months I'm down 36lbs and back to a healthy size and weight which feels fantastic. I agree with you about Sugar, particularly in North America they literally put sweeteners in everything and the results are pretty evident. I don't think XBox is causing the obesity problem, I think Coke is. D

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              Hi David. Yes, it feels great, especially because there's no work involved. I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I don't count calories or starve, and the weight stays off. Yes, I'd seen that video, too. It's interesting, there's a lot of different thoughts on HFCS. The book I read says that he thinks it's no worse than sugar, they are both effective sources of fructose ( which is the issue ). I am not sure he's right, I notice the impact on how I feel after a few days in the US, and my last trip, where I was fructose free and so didn't drink soft drinks or eat candy, it was not as pronounced. Congratulations - that's a big result. Are you within your recommended BMI range now ? I am not, which makes me think the ranges are a bit of a farce. I am literally bony, I don't have any scope to lose more weight, and plenty to gain it by putting on muscle, but I am just above the recommended BMI range, which my doctor was pushing on me every visit. I am not sure what he'll say now that the recommended values are not off in the distance somewhere :-) Yes, I think soft drinks are the biggest one. The serving sizes in the US are obscene, and people will try for a low calorie food option, but not consider how much sugar they are drinking. Even fruit juice has tons of sugar, and what we drink typically accounts for at least 30% of our sugar intake. I just drink sparkling water now, sweetened drinks taste strange to me now that I'm not addicted to sugar. As the book I read says, did we as a species lose our will power in the past 50 years, or has something changed in our dietary environment that has caused this weight gain ? It's worth noting, refrigeration is not that old, it's not like people had juice in the fridge 100 years ago.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • N Nish Nishant

                I first heard of all this no-sugar stuff from Smitha, who said she got it from you (apparently it was the rage in CodeProject a few months ago). About the same time, CG visits me and tells me he is on the no-sugar diet too. Of course I am happy to hear all this while continuing to consume huge quantities of sugar because of my super-human metabolism. :-D

                Regards, Nish


                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                Christian Graus
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                Apart from that amazing ice cream place you took me to, I didn't think there was that much evidence of sugar in your diets :-)

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                • A Andy Brummer

                  I eat a "paleo" diet and cutting out sugar is a big part of it. Vegetables and fruits are the biggest source of carbohydrates in my diet.

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                  Yeah, I've heard of this paleo diet. I'm sure it has merit, but, the people I know, also try to be 'in touch with their bodys rhythms', which I assume means going to bed when the sun goes down, which must be hard work in the winter, unless your marriage is in excellent shape....

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                    Yeah, I've heard of this paleo diet. I'm sure it has merit, but, the people I know, also try to be 'in touch with their bodys rhythms', which I assume means going to bed when the sun goes down, which must be hard work in the winter, unless your marriage is in excellent shape....

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    The name causes a lot of confusion, but I haven't heard a better one to sum up what it's all about. Looking at early human behavior and diet is an inspiration but it has to be backed up by results before it makes it into the paleo mainstream. Dropping sugars, processed foods, grains especially gluten, maintaining a good balance of omega-6 to omega-3 fats, getting enough sleep in a completely dark room, getting a good variety of exercise are all things that are relatively non-controversial individually, but if you put them all together and put a label on it, people think its kinda looney.

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                    • A Andy Brummer

                      The name causes a lot of confusion, but I haven't heard a better one to sum up what it's all about. Looking at early human behavior and diet is an inspiration but it has to be backed up by results before it makes it into the paleo mainstream. Dropping sugars, processed foods, grains especially gluten, maintaining a good balance of omega-6 to omega-3 fats, getting enough sleep in a completely dark room, getting a good variety of exercise are all things that are relatively non-controversial individually, but if you put them all together and put a label on it, people think its kinda looney.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      I guess I think it has the POTENTIAL to be loony if you start doing things just because people who lived in caves 500 years ago and died at 20, did it. But, none of the things you're saying are bad, I agree. For example, my other paleo friend never sits in a chair, from what I can tell.

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                        I guess I think it has the POTENTIAL to be loony if you start doing things just because people who lived in caves 500 years ago and died at 20, did it. But, none of the things you're saying are bad, I agree. For example, my other paleo friend never sits in a chair, from what I can tell.

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                        The biggest downside of the name is that it conjures up images of movie cavemen and all the stereotypes that people have of our ancestors most of which are untrue. And again just because someone theorizes about a behavior of our ancestors 10,000 years ago, it's still got to pass a modern evaluation. As far as the basic "paleo" argument goes, many of our modern behaviors and diet are less than 10,000 years old and our bodies haven't time to adjust to them, so while growing grain has been a huge benefit for our species providing a stable food source and the basis of civilization, it's bad for the individual. It's not only poor in nutrients, it has a number of anti-nutrients that make it harder for us to digest other foods. It's also higher in sugar than the foods we originally ate and produces long term inflammation leading to many of the same issues that eating sugar does. Also, about that 20 years old thing. Infant mortality was a big part of that number, and adopting agriculture lowered life expectancy, height and caused higher rates of tooth decay. Also the average hunter gatherer worked 20 hours a week getting food and spent a lot of the other time socializing. I'm not trying to make things look super rosy living in those conditions, but they aren't necessarily the awful drudgery we might imagine they were. It is a lifestyle that we were adapted to and we managed to survive in it for millions of years.

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                        • A Andy Brummer

                          The biggest downside of the name is that it conjures up images of movie cavemen and all the stereotypes that people have of our ancestors most of which are untrue. And again just because someone theorizes about a behavior of our ancestors 10,000 years ago, it's still got to pass a modern evaluation. As far as the basic "paleo" argument goes, many of our modern behaviors and diet are less than 10,000 years old and our bodies haven't time to adjust to them, so while growing grain has been a huge benefit for our species providing a stable food source and the basis of civilization, it's bad for the individual. It's not only poor in nutrients, it has a number of anti-nutrients that make it harder for us to digest other foods. It's also higher in sugar than the foods we originally ate and produces long term inflammation leading to many of the same issues that eating sugar does. Also, about that 20 years old thing. Infant mortality was a big part of that number, and adopting agriculture lowered life expectancy, height and caused higher rates of tooth decay. Also the average hunter gatherer worked 20 hours a week getting food and spent a lot of the other time socializing. I'm not trying to make things look super rosy living in those conditions, but they aren't necessarily the awful drudgery we might imagine they were. It is a lifestyle that we were adapted to and we managed to survive in it for millions of years.

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                          I just had the 'you have to figure in infant mortality' conversation with someone yesterday. Actually, agriculture decreased life spans in the short term, because it made us live in groups and more prone to disease at first :-) Everything is complicated....

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                            I just had the 'you have to figure in infant mortality' conversation with someone yesterday. Actually, agriculture decreased life spans in the short term, because it made us live in groups and more prone to disease at first :-) Everything is complicated....

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                            Well, shame on you for trying to run it past me then. :-D As far as your friend goes, sitting is bad for you. I can't code as well standing up, but if I did less thought intensive work I'd definitely opt for standing more. And back on the sugar thing, I work at a foundation that funds anti-obesity programs for children and when we celebrate something people still order cake balls, cookies, etc.

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                            • A Andy Brummer

                              Well, shame on you for trying to run it past me then. :-D As far as your friend goes, sitting is bad for you. I can't code as well standing up, but if I did less thought intensive work I'd definitely opt for standing more. And back on the sugar thing, I work at a foundation that funds anti-obesity programs for children and when we celebrate something people still order cake balls, cookies, etc.

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                              *grin* it was a cheap shot. Yeah, I know sitting is not ideal, I use a saddle chair. But, it seemed like she was taking an extreme stance that would do more harm to her daily life than sitting down from time to time could. That is awesome. The trouble is, your body cannot process fructose, and it's addictive, but people assume that if they say 'everything in moderation', it means they can just keep eating it.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                *grin* it was a cheap shot. Yeah, I know sitting is not ideal, I use a saddle chair. But, it seemed like she was taking an extreme stance that would do more harm to her daily life than sitting down from time to time could. That is awesome. The trouble is, your body cannot process fructose, and it's addictive, but people assume that if they say 'everything in moderation', it means they can just keep eating it.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                Andy Brummer
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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                Yeah, I know sitting is not ideal, I use a saddle chair. But, it seemed like she was taking an extreme stance that would do more harm to her daily life than sitting down from time to time could.

                                Some people just live extreme lives! :-D I do wish I could squat like my 21month old. I'm totally jealous.

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