Global Warming
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I can't help but think the low nutrient levels in Australian soil to begin with just illustrates the difference fertilizer makes. How do you guys water there to counter the salt?
We don't use salt water :-) If ground is highly salted, it's just useless.
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jschell wrote:
I didn't find the piece very informative. The stated intent was to present evidence but a lot of the verbiage was about predicted results.
yes, the Skeptics magazine did a much better job of listing the doubters claims and then explaining the science.
jschell wrote:
Might note as well that the environment groups also ignore the most pressing social issue that would have a direct impact on the environment - that of population growth.
Actually population is peaking, I've done some reading on that, too. but yes, it is the core issue and the reason that things like corn for fuel and organic farming do not scale.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Actually population is peaking,
You mean that growth is slowing versus evidence that it will actually plateau? But I misspoke a bit anyways. Environmental issues along with a number of other issues would be more readily solved or would become non-existent if the population went down.
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No, none of your questions have anything to do with the topic so I am not getting on that ride with you.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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If you mismanage the soil you mismanage the soil.
True. And?
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And rape, pillage and burn (farms) was a popular pastime as well.
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Utter and complete nonsense.
Do research before responding.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
ryanb31 wrote:
And?
You were romanticizing something while ignoring the reality.
ryanb31 wrote:
Do research before responding.
I already am aware of the claim that you made and the refutations of it. I suspect that if you have in fact done any research that you did so by ignoring the basics of scientific inquiry.
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Perhaps providers of clean alternatives can now put their prices up, because of the benefits of no carbon tax. Which does not help society, either
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Actually population is peaking,
You mean that growth is slowing versus evidence that it will actually plateau? But I misspoke a bit anyways. Environmental issues along with a number of other issues would be more readily solved or would become non-existent if the population went down.
jschell wrote:
You mean that growth is slowing versus evidence that it will actually plateau?
It's odd to me that people are convinced that population is exploding, yet we all know that our next big crisis is an aging population, which is what happens as we breed less.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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This is not true at all. There are villages in India which do not use fertilizers. Their yields are same may be more than one with fertilizers use. We just need to understand the various insects, bacteria etc and how they fit into this big food chain. They do help improving soil quality which in turn means better yield. Check this[^] out. Sikkim state in India is known for it's organic farming.
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yes, you do use fertilizer. It's called: "shit".
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jschell wrote:
You mean that growth is slowing versus evidence that it will actually plateau?
It's odd to me that people are convinced that population is exploding, yet we all know that our next big crisis is an aging population, which is what happens as we breed less.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
It's odd to me that people are convinced that population is exploding
Actually I was asking a real question... Are you suggesting that someone else (presumably) has floated the idea that for the population of the world (not a country) that the growth is not only slowing but is showing evidence that it will plateau?
Christian Graus wrote:
yet we all know that our next big crisis is an aging population, which is what happens as we breed less.
In terms of the environment, I doubt that is significant.
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's odd to me that people are convinced that population is exploding
Actually I was asking a real question... Are you suggesting that someone else (presumably) has floated the idea that for the population of the world (not a country) that the growth is not only slowing but is showing evidence that it will plateau?
Christian Graus wrote:
yet we all know that our next big crisis is an aging population, which is what happens as we breed less.
In terms of the environment, I doubt that is significant.
jschell wrote:
Are you suggesting that someone else (presumably) has floated the idea that for the population of the world (not a country) that the growth is not only slowing but is showing evidence that it will plateau?
Oh, OK. Yes, I've read a book on population that says that all available evidence points to a plateau followed by a decline. The people most likely to have a lot of kids, apart from people making babies for Jesus, is people with high infant mortality, so as work is done to lower that, people have more interest in family planning. Of course, the people in those areas, don't use a lot of resources in any case.
jschell wrote:
In terms of the environment, I doubt that is significant.
Yes, you're right. The age of the population does not matter as much as the raw number of people. But the age is getting older, because less babies are being made, on an ongoing basis for some time now.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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jschell wrote:
Are you suggesting that someone else (presumably) has floated the idea that for the population of the world (not a country) that the growth is not only slowing but is showing evidence that it will plateau?
Oh, OK. Yes, I've read a book on population that says that all available evidence points to a plateau followed by a decline. The people most likely to have a lot of kids, apart from people making babies for Jesus, is people with high infant mortality, so as work is done to lower that, people have more interest in family planning. Of course, the people in those areas, don't use a lot of resources in any case.
jschell wrote:
In terms of the environment, I doubt that is significant.
Yes, you're right. The age of the population does not matter as much as the raw number of people. But the age is getting older, because less babies are being made, on an ongoing basis for some time now.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.