People more honest when they sign a form first
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Okay, I admit that it is because I used to work with Biostatiscians and PhDs that I find this sort of thing interesting... however I find this REALLY interesting that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty. 79% signing after filling out vs 37% signing before filling out the quiz. Less likely to lie if you sign your name first (via Ars)[^]
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Okay, I admit that it is because I used to work with Biostatiscians and PhDs that I find this sort of thing interesting... however I find this REALLY interesting that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty. 79% signing after filling out vs 37% signing before filling out the quiz. Less likely to lie if you sign your name first (via Ars)[^]
Who would sign a form before reading or completing it? Even if they did present me with a form to sign at the top I'd still read it through and THEN sign it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Okay, I admit that it is because I used to work with Biostatiscians and PhDs that I find this sort of thing interesting... however I find this REALLY interesting that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty. 79% signing after filling out vs 37% signing before filling out the quiz. Less likely to lie if you sign your name first (via Ars)[^]
This is why I always sign someone elses name so they can't trace it to me...I can cause a problem on cheques, though. :-O
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Who would sign a form before reading or completing it? Even if they did present me with a form to sign at the top I'd still read it through and THEN sign it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Yeah, I thought that same thing. Doubly so if it was something legally binding. I want it filled out and THEN sign it validating it was me and accurate and all that. I would end up signing it, get distracted and someone would have a good chance to swipe the paper, then it out with whatever they feel. It does go along the same lines of what happens in a court. You are sworn in, then give testimony. Extrapolating the conclusion of this research, if you gave testimony and then swear that it was all true, you would be more likely to lie. Maybe have a document that you have to sign twice? Once at the top to swear that it is all true, then the questions, and once again at the bottom stating that it was really you who filled it out?
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Yeah, I thought that same thing. Doubly so if it was something legally binding. I want it filled out and THEN sign it validating it was me and accurate and all that. I would end up signing it, get distracted and someone would have a good chance to swipe the paper, then it out with whatever they feel. It does go along the same lines of what happens in a court. You are sworn in, then give testimony. Extrapolating the conclusion of this research, if you gave testimony and then swear that it was all true, you would be more likely to lie. Maybe have a document that you have to sign twice? Once at the top to swear that it is all true, then the questions, and once again at the bottom stating that it was really you who filled it out?
RJOberg wrote:
It does go along the same lines of what happens in a court. You are sworn in, then give testimony.
Fair point but I'd still never sign anything till I had read and understood it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Okay, I admit that it is because I used to work with Biostatiscians and PhDs that I find this sort of thing interesting... however I find this REALLY interesting that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty. 79% signing after filling out vs 37% signing before filling out the quiz. Less likely to lie if you sign your name first (via Ars)[^]
RJOberg wrote:
that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty.
Until we adapt.
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RJOberg wrote:
It does go along the same lines of what happens in a court. You are sworn in, then give testimony.
Fair point but I'd still never sign anything till I had read and understood it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Meaning the terms of condition from Microsoft, Apple etc. Heavy documents.... :-D
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This is why I always sign someone elses name so they can't trace it to me...I can cause a problem on cheques, though. :-O
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
OriginalGriff wrote:
...I can cause a problem on cheques, though.
You must have a smarter bank than we do. Ours ignores signatures, dates, and would probably ignore the amount if it wouldn't screw up their bookeeping.
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Okay, I admit that it is because I used to work with Biostatiscians and PhDs that I find this sort of thing interesting... however I find this REALLY interesting that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty. 79% signing after filling out vs 37% signing before filling out the quiz. Less likely to lie if you sign your name first (via Ars)[^]
I wonder if the author of the article signed their name before or after they completed the article. :doh:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
...I can cause a problem on cheques, though.
You must have a smarter bank than we do. Ours ignores signatures, dates, and would probably ignore the amount if it wouldn't screw up their bookeeping.
No dogs or cats are in the classroom. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
Mine's pretty good - I have used them for about 20 years, maybe longer, I'm not sure exactly. I changed to them because I was fed up with a bank that considered that once it was deposited it was their money, and they should have the right to tell me how much of it I could take out, even with 24 hours notice. Neither bank has the same name it had when I swapped though - the junk one was swallowed by HSBC, and the good one by Santander. Still pretty good though in comparison.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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RJOberg wrote:
It does go along the same lines of what happens in a court. You are sworn in, then give testimony.
Fair point but I'd still never sign anything till I had read and understood it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Oh I agree, and I am the same way. I don't sign until it is all filled in, I have triple checked it, and I know exactly what I am agreeing to. I am just strugling to apply this research to a real world scenario, hence to sign twice thought. Once to verify the information you are putting down is factual, again to state that you were the one who filled it out. That way, you can still read it, make sure you understand what you are signing, sign it to say that "what I am about to put down is factual to the best of my knowledge." Fill out the form, then sign it saying "Yep, that was me who entered all this here stuff." Not sure how that would work, but it is the best I have come up with.
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Okay, I admit that it is because I used to work with Biostatiscians and PhDs that I find this sort of thing interesting... however I find this REALLY interesting that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty. 79% signing after filling out vs 37% signing before filling out the quiz. Less likely to lie if you sign your name first (via Ars)[^]
But my signature is a lie too though. :~ I agree with don't sign until you've read it. Where I'm supposed to sign won't matter much other than maybe I'll just put an X (or a "see below") at the top and sign at the bottom. :shrug: (Haven't read the article.)
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Okay, I admit that it is because I used to work with Biostatiscians and PhDs that I find this sort of thing interesting... however I find this REALLY interesting that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty. 79% signing after filling out vs 37% signing before filling out the quiz. Less likely to lie if you sign your name first (via Ars)[^]
I would think this entirely depends on the form type. For example if it is a questionnaire about something the person doesn't care too much about (i.e. they have no extreme opinions about the topic) they would be more honest. Where as something that directly involves them they will likely exaggerate or hide information if it is not believed to be anonymous, i.e. order of signature will matter.
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Okay, I admit that it is because I used to work with Biostatiscians and PhDs that I find this sort of thing interesting... however I find this REALLY interesting that just changing the order which you sign a form causes a significant change in a person's honesty. 79% signing after filling out vs 37% signing before filling out the quiz. Less likely to lie if you sign your name first (via Ars)[^]
Technically, we sign our postings to CP before we write them, because our sig is predefined. I haven't noted that it prevents people posting bollocks, though.
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