Slammin' the Apple announcment sticky
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If ever there's a case for keeping downvotes it's got to be my sticky post yesterday regarding the Apple iPhone announcement. I'm amazed at the 1-votes. Where did the magic go, guys? Apple creates tech gadgets. Overpriced, overhyped, overhyperboly'd, sure. But they are gadgets and they are a way for developers to create applications that millions of people will use and enjoy. This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade. So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple? Hate the devices? Hate the hype? The OS? The development environment? The available apps? The design? Is it the tall poppy syndrome, or is it a feeling that other companies are more worthy of the over-the-top media attention? I don't want to start the same old boring religious war, and I'm not interested in discussions regarding the Reality Distortion Field since every single company does the same thing. I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM. And whatever other handset make you care to name.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade.
But only apple deserves a sticky thread? This hasn't got much to do with loving or hating apple. I hate apple, but I didn't downvote; I think the downvoting was over inequity and seeming favoritism, rather than the voters' gadget preferences.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade.
But only apple deserves a sticky thread? This hasn't got much to do with loving or hating apple. I hate apple, but I didn't downvote; I think the downvoting was over inequity and seeming favoritism, rather than the voters' gadget preferences.
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Visual Studio had a sticky thread too. Two launches on the same day - seemed silly to mention one and not the other.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Visual Studio had a sticky thread too. Two launches on the same day - seemed silly to mention one and not the other.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
VS is a development tool. I doubt that it had a sticky thread on phoneproject,com.
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VS is a development tool. I doubt that it had a sticky thread on phoneproject,com.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
iOS is a development platform, as is Windows 8. I'll be making a fuss about Windows 8. I'm positive I won't get many downvotes for mentioning it.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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iOS is a development platform, as is Windows 8. I'll be making a fuss about Windows 8. I'm positive I won't get many downvotes for mentioning it.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Was it a paid thread? 9.25M nerdy users is a nice audience. God knows they pay enough to get their computers in every movie; CP would be grist for their marketing mill.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If ever there's a case for keeping downvotes it's got to be my sticky post yesterday regarding the Apple iPhone announcement. I'm amazed at the 1-votes. Where did the magic go, guys? Apple creates tech gadgets. Overpriced, overhyped, overhyperboly'd, sure. But they are gadgets and they are a way for developers to create applications that millions of people will use and enjoy. This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade. So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple? Hate the devices? Hate the hype? The OS? The development environment? The available apps? The design? Is it the tall poppy syndrome, or is it a feeling that other companies are more worthy of the over-the-top media attention? I don't want to start the same old boring religious war, and I'm not interested in discussions regarding the Reality Distortion Field since every single company does the same thing. I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM. And whatever other handset make you care to name.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
You just love 1'sies......... Anyway, I don't hate Apple, otherwise I wouldn't have an Touch or a Tv. What I do hate is all the bullsh!t that the media hype into everything around Apple. I honestly think for once, that this product launch hasn't gone down as well as they would have hoped. This article (here on BusinessWeek[^] just sums up the BS. They could not have been further from the truth and this must have been written by a fanboy journalist. The comments at the bottom pretty much reflect my sentiment. Apple raising bar for Smartphones???? I think not, this time, they are playing catch up. When you go to Google Technology News and search for all articles relating to the 5, I think it is clear to see that the majority of the media have got wise to what has gone on, and are actually fairly critical of the device which makes a change. "No Wow", "Brilliant, but not best in class", blah blah blah. Then there is the change to the connector, and the required adapter to use the micro-usb, oh, how many people are going to be disappointed that their docks, car kits, alarm clocks, speakers etc, wont plug into their shiny new phone. Never the less, their share price will continue to rise, the legal battles will continue, but like every great tech company, there has to come a fall. The question is when.......
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If ever there's a case for keeping downvotes it's got to be my sticky post yesterday regarding the Apple iPhone announcement. I'm amazed at the 1-votes. Where did the magic go, guys? Apple creates tech gadgets. Overpriced, overhyped, overhyperboly'd, sure. But they are gadgets and they are a way for developers to create applications that millions of people will use and enjoy. This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade. So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple? Hate the devices? Hate the hype? The OS? The development environment? The available apps? The design? Is it the tall poppy syndrome, or is it a feeling that other companies are more worthy of the over-the-top media attention? I don't want to start the same old boring religious war, and I'm not interested in discussions regarding the Reality Distortion Field since every single company does the same thing. I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM. And whatever other handset make you care to name.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I suspect some people don't care to hear about Apple stuff. I don't see why people don't find this awesome. The new iPhone is many times faster than my old 486, is much smaller, and does a heck of a lot more (GPS, phone, etc). It now even has turn by turn directions, spoken out loud, and Siri allows for commands via voice recognition. Not even my dedicated GPS has that. This type of device is a geek's dream come true. I don't see why people wouldn't find it exciting, and I certainly don't see why they'd have to downvote a message about it. Actually, there is one reason. Because everybody they know is probably already talking about it. Maybe they've heard so much about it, they don't care to hear even more. That's the only reason that makes any sense to me.
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If ever there's a case for keeping downvotes it's got to be my sticky post yesterday regarding the Apple iPhone announcement. I'm amazed at the 1-votes. Where did the magic go, guys? Apple creates tech gadgets. Overpriced, overhyped, overhyperboly'd, sure. But they are gadgets and they are a way for developers to create applications that millions of people will use and enjoy. This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade. So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple? Hate the devices? Hate the hype? The OS? The development environment? The available apps? The design? Is it the tall poppy syndrome, or is it a feeling that other companies are more worthy of the over-the-top media attention? I don't want to start the same old boring religious war, and I'm not interested in discussions regarding the Reality Distortion Field since every single company does the same thing. I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM. And whatever other handset make you care to name.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I am a mercenary - I don't like to waste my time learning any platform/languages/tools that won't result in me making more money Screw iPhones[^] i'm perfectly happy not buying/owning an iphone (ever), but making shit money is particularly uncool, especially if you work long hours
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I suspect some people don't care to hear about Apple stuff. I don't see why people don't find this awesome. The new iPhone is many times faster than my old 486, is much smaller, and does a heck of a lot more (GPS, phone, etc). It now even has turn by turn directions, spoken out loud, and Siri allows for commands via voice recognition. Not even my dedicated GPS has that. This type of device is a geek's dream come true. I don't see why people wouldn't find it exciting, and I certainly don't see why they'd have to downvote a message about it. Actually, there is one reason. Because everybody they know is probably already talking about it. Maybe they've heard so much about it, they don't care to hear even more. That's the only reason that makes any sense to me.
AspDotNetDev wrote:
I suspect some people don't care to hear about Apple stuff.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
AspDotNetDev wrote:
The new iPhone is many times faster than my old 486, is much smaller, and does a heck of a lot more
Hell, the chip in my watch is more powerful than my first computer. Apple's not to thank for that (although MS may be, partially). The rest is just software, and, to be honest (as in unbiased), I think the Android sector is not only blowing apple away in that demesne, but is also progressing faster. Marketing bollocks and apps that are slowed down by too much eye candy will only get them so far, and they know they're losing ground, so they're already resorting to hardware incompatibility tricks, to make their valued customers fork out for new peripherals (and that's from the same company that used to slam MS for not making Word documents forward compatible!)
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If ever there's a case for keeping downvotes it's got to be my sticky post yesterday regarding the Apple iPhone announcement. I'm amazed at the 1-votes. Where did the magic go, guys? Apple creates tech gadgets. Overpriced, overhyped, overhyperboly'd, sure. But they are gadgets and they are a way for developers to create applications that millions of people will use and enjoy. This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade. So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple? Hate the devices? Hate the hype? The OS? The development environment? The available apps? The design? Is it the tall poppy syndrome, or is it a feeling that other companies are more worthy of the over-the-top media attention? I don't want to start the same old boring religious war, and I'm not interested in discussions regarding the Reality Distortion Field since every single company does the same thing. I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM. And whatever other handset make you care to name.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I do not own any of their products but I do know they are overpriced. This is the only thing I do not like. I do not hate Apple, it's a strong word. As far as sticky goes, it was bit weird since I cannot recall anything like that from past (I didn't voted though). These launches might go to some new forum perhaps. Then it's up to people if they want to know about it or not. If you do that, please restrict posting messages there for some reliable guys. Or else, we might end up tons of posts telling new browser versions launched.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
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iOS is a development platform, as is Windows 8. I'll be making a fuss about Windows 8. I'm positive I won't get many downvotes for mentioning it.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
That's probably because there are more windows developers than ios developers here? I didn't think an apple phone launch was important enough to have a sticky thread.
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If ever there's a case for keeping downvotes it's got to be my sticky post yesterday regarding the Apple iPhone announcement. I'm amazed at the 1-votes. Where did the magic go, guys? Apple creates tech gadgets. Overpriced, overhyped, overhyperboly'd, sure. But they are gadgets and they are a way for developers to create applications that millions of people will use and enjoy. This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade. So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple? Hate the devices? Hate the hype? The OS? The development environment? The available apps? The design? Is it the tall poppy syndrome, or is it a feeling that other companies are more worthy of the over-the-top media attention? I don't want to start the same old boring religious war, and I'm not interested in discussions regarding the Reality Distortion Field since every single company does the same thing. I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM. And whatever other handset make you care to name.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris, I watched the blog cast wanting to like the new iPhone. As many have detected in my tone recently, I'm well and truly sick of Microsoft so I was looking for a change from my current Windows phone. The problems I had with the presentation are: 1. It was so boring. Gone was Jobs passion. In is Cook delivering things like an accountant - it was all figures. Where was the "must have" feature? 2. I'm not bothered by the UI. All I want is a phone that lets me make calls, do some texting, has a decent calendar that can sync with my Outlook and surf the web, so the cries of iOS 6 being no different to iOS 5 doesn't bother me. 3. The thing I do want is a decent battery. My current phone isn't great. The iPhone isn't any better (in any incarnation) 3. I don't really care whether it's lighter or not. It's a phone, not a car, so I think I csn just about lift it. For these reasons, I'm probably going to get the new Razr.
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Chris, I watched the blog cast wanting to like the new iPhone. As many have detected in my tone recently, I'm well and truly sick of Microsoft so I was looking for a change from my current Windows phone. The problems I had with the presentation are: 1. It was so boring. Gone was Jobs passion. In is Cook delivering things like an accountant - it was all figures. Where was the "must have" feature? 2. I'm not bothered by the UI. All I want is a phone that lets me make calls, do some texting, has a decent calendar that can sync with my Outlook and surf the web, so the cries of iOS 6 being no different to iOS 5 doesn't bother me. 3. The thing I do want is a decent battery. My current phone isn't great. The iPhone isn't any better (in any incarnation) 3. I don't really care whether it's lighter or not. It's a phone, not a car, so I think I csn just about lift it. For these reasons, I'm probably going to get the new Razr.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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I think this[^] is the phone for you. :)
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
Damn shame it's not available in the UK.
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"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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Damn shame it's not available in the UK.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
You might want to ask one of your Indian friends to bring it for you(if you got any). BTW, electronics in general are cheaper in India for some reason.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
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You might want to ask one of your Indian friends to bring it for you(if you got any). BTW, electronics in general are cheaper in India for some reason.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
Cheeky bugger. I'm sure you and I have talked about my mate Pri before. Actually, that's something I wanted to ask - Pri has had his hair cut so calling him Pri doesn't make much sense any more. Any suggestions for a good nickname now that we can't name him after actresses?
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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Cheeky bugger. I'm sure you and I have talked about my mate Pri before. Actually, that's something I wanted to ask - Pri has had his hair cut so calling him Pri doesn't make much sense any more. Any suggestions for a good nickname now that we can't name him after actresses?
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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If ever there's a case for keeping downvotes it's got to be my sticky post yesterday regarding the Apple iPhone announcement. I'm amazed at the 1-votes. Where did the magic go, guys? Apple creates tech gadgets. Overpriced, overhyped, overhyperboly'd, sure. But they are gadgets and they are a way for developers to create applications that millions of people will use and enjoy. This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade. So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple? Hate the devices? Hate the hype? The OS? The development environment? The available apps? The design? Is it the tall poppy syndrome, or is it a feeling that other companies are more worthy of the over-the-top media attention? I don't want to start the same old boring religious war, and I'm not interested in discussions regarding the Reality Distortion Field since every single company does the same thing. I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM. And whatever other handset make you care to name.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple?
No, it was an advertisement for a specific launch of a specific commercial product.
Chris Maunder wrote:
I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM.
..and Apple, and Google, and Samsung? We got the Insider for "news", post it there (if it's not spam). I'm interested in programming, not in companies. I dislike announcements without body that merely flow on hype - had you mentioned that the phone was launched after the fact, I'd have ignored it. I'll butt out for the rest of the topic, as it'll be hard to convince you that it was not approriate material.
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The actress in question too went for short hair for an upcoming movie. Will that work for you?
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
Nah, need something else. The closest I can come to describing Pramod's hairstyle is young Imran Khan, and we can't call him that for obvious reasons - he is a mate after all.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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If ever there's a case for keeping downvotes it's got to be my sticky post yesterday regarding the Apple iPhone announcement. I'm amazed at the 1-votes. Where did the magic go, guys? Apple creates tech gadgets. Overpriced, overhyped, overhyperboly'd, sure. But they are gadgets and they are a way for developers to create applications that millions of people will use and enjoy. This isn't restricted to the iPhone, though. Android devices, Windows Phone, and Blackberries all provide the developer with the most interesting developer challenge and opportunity in the last decade. So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple? Hate the devices? Hate the hype? The OS? The development environment? The available apps? The design? Is it the tall poppy syndrome, or is it a feeling that other companies are more worthy of the over-the-top media attention? I don't want to start the same old boring religious war, and I'm not interested in discussions regarding the Reality Distortion Field since every single company does the same thing. I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM. And whatever other handset make you care to name.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
For me, Apple are worse than Microsoft. Firstly their [right spilling today] OS API is so closed, it would be easier to write something to access GCHQ. Secondly and most importantly, they want to win the technology war in the court room and not the lab. There is the third reason, the Fanboyz, but you can't blame a company for being popular with sock cookers; it's not like they encourage the 'better than thou' characters. Once Apple et al get off their high horses and stop their stupid patents I'll be a little bit more supportive, until then they can go suck the puss from a million septic sores but I won't buy any of their products.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett