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Hey UK, How's That Gun-Free Zone Workin' Out For Y'all?

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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    The citizenry probably shouldn't have bazookas and grenades WITHOUT PROPER TRAINING.

    Fix that for ya. If people would just read the 2nd Amendment, it pretty clearly doesn't put restrictions on what "arms" are, because it implies that they are current battlefield capable. That's the whole point behind "A well regulated militia".

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Well, yeah, and it seems to me that the best place to get such training is in the military.

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      Fair enough, and I respect you for your opinion. It's not changing my mind any, but I do respect it.

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      Fair enough

      Bullshit, you should be able to use profanity to emphasize a point, it is even stronger as you don't generally use it :-O , like some of us! Put the arsehole back, JSOPs post thoroughly deserved it.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Don't be a pussy... Stand behind what you say.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        Stand behind what you say

        I agree with this, he should not have retracted the arsehole epithet, your post deserved it!

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          The citizenry probably shouldn't have bazookas and grenades WITHOUT PROPER TRAINING.

          Fix that for ya. If people would just read the 2nd Amendment, it pretty clearly doesn't put restrictions on what "arms" are, because it implies that they are current battlefield capable. That's the whole point behind "A well regulated militia".

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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          RC_Sebastien_C
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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          Amendment, it pretty clearly doesn't put restrictions on what "arms" are

          True.

          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          because it implies that they are current battlefield capable

          Your interpretation.

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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            Mark_Wallace
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            Damn, but your rep's taking a hammering over this. Undeservedly, IMO, even though I'm on the "disagrees" side of the fence. I don't think you should lose an article-worth's rep over it, so I'll counter a bit.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              Actually, the US doesn't have the highest murder rate.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Lost User
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              No doubt Somalia is worse, but do you really want to compare your country to that?

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                Lost User
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                SOome cops do carry guns, and in fact being a relatively gun free society, with the exception of hunting weapons, is working out well since our gun murder rate is very low.

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                • R RC_Sebastien_C

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  Amendment, it pretty clearly doesn't put restrictions on what "arms" are

                  True.

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  because it implies that they are current battlefield capable

                  Your interpretation.

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                  realJSOP
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                  How else would one interpret it? In order to be "well regulated", you had to have arms and training that were sufficient to enable you to successfully "provide for the security of a free State". How can that be accomplished with a single-shot .22 rifle?

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    Whatever your point you attempted to deliver it in a crass and insensitive way and instead of fessing up you're just trying bluster your way through it. I say again, shame on you. Mind you, it also shows your total ignorance of how guns are viewed in the UK. No one wants them. No one needs one. The odd criminal will get and use one but that is quite rare. The Police don't want them because, generally, they don't need them.

                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                    realJSOP
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                    mark merrens wrote:

                    it also shows your total ignorance of how guns are viewed in the UK. No one wants them. No one needs one.

                    That's because you guys are used to being oppressed and monitored. Only you can fix that particular problem.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Slacker007 wrote:

                      and put him in his place

                      Nobody's ever been able to do that. They like to THINK they have, but it actually hasn't happened.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      Slacker007
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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      Nobody's ever been able to do that. They like to THINK they have, but it actually hasn't happened.

                      What a miserable life you must have John, always trying to make sure people don't put you in your place and constantly telling us all about your endeavors and what a bad ass your are.

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        Stand behind what you say

                        I agree with this, he should not have retracted the arsehole epithet, your post deserved it!

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        Slacker007
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                        I asked Pete to remove the asshole bit because we don't call people asshole here on this site. It sets a bad example for the other members and sends them a message that calling people names is Okay. I have called other members here names before, as well. It ultimately served no beneficial purpose, and it was wrong.

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          You're an idiot.

                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                          Slacker007
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                          I see he can push your buttons, too.

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            Damn, but your rep's taking a hammering over this. Undeservedly, IMO, even though I'm on the "disagrees" side of the fence. I don't think you should lose an article-worth's rep over it, so I'll counter a bit.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            realJSOP
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                            I honestly appreciate the sentiment, but... I no longer vote on stuff, answer questions, nor post articles. I haven't even run Reputationator since December. I also don't post messages because I think people will like it. I post what I want, and with over 9 "million" users, what I post is bound to offend someone's sensitivities (mostly foreigners). If the thought zombies here want to vote, they should, by all means, take their hands off their dicks long enough to click their mouse - whatever blows up their skirt. I'm not a supporter of the touchy-feely new world order, and I refuse to let my individuality, freedom of thought, or natural rights be absorbed and diffused by the collective. In short, screw 'em. :)

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              SOome cops do carry guns, and in fact being a relatively gun free society, with the exception of hunting weapons, is working out well since our gun murder rate is very low.

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                              realJSOP
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                              (Adding fuel to the fire...) Maybe they just don't trust female cops with guns...

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                Mike Diack
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                                I don't like the inflamatory subject line. It's not big and it's not clever. You hardly need to look elsewhere to see that arming the police isn't the answer to all problems either. Have some respect for the dead.

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  It most certainly does make my point. Gun control laws only disarm the law-abiding. Criminals, by their very nature, don't obey the law, so making laws concerning gun control are pointless.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  Mike Diack
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                                  Take your US politics elsewhere. The situation in the UK is different. Maybe if you actually came to the UK and spoke to people you'd understand.

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    mark merrens wrote:

                                    it also shows your total ignorance of how guns are viewed in the UK. No one wants them. No one needs one.

                                    That's because you guys are used to being oppressed and monitored. Only you can fix that particular problem.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                    Mike Diack
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                                    Now you're just trolling. Sod off.

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                      Distind
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                                      Better than Some other places.[^]

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                                      • S Slacker007

                                        I asked Pete to remove the asshole bit because we don't call people asshole here on this site. It sets a bad example for the other members and sends them a message that calling people names is Okay. I have called other members here names before, as well. It ultimately served no beneficial purpose, and it was wrong.

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                                        Mycroft Holmes
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                                        I know you did, but when someone behaves like an arsehole he deserves to be told so and I personally have no issue with using profanity to emphasise the point. At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it. Besides I think the whole PC thing is counter productive, I'm of the opinion that a little pain is an excellent teacher, sarcasm and vitriol are about the only way to deliver that here.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          Better than Some other places.[^]

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                                          realJSOP
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                                          They don't get any training in NY because it's also a gun-free zone - [SARCASM]so they never have to shoot at anyone[/SARCASM]. You know what's REALLY absurd? Civilians that carry are held to a higher standard than the cops where collateral damage is concerned. The cops in that incident will probably receive "training", but a civilian in the same situation would receive physical brutality from the cops (and if they were shooting at him, several incident bystanders would be wounded) when they "take him down", assault charges, and jail time.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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