So I installed Ubuntu this morning.
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Brady Kelly wrote:
It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion
Now you know why Linux doesn't have a larger foothold as a workstation OS. :|
Brady Kelly wrote:
I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan
The difference between Linux and Windows system administrators is that Linux system administrators need to be system administrators. :doh:
Brady Kelly wrote:
In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
As they say in New York City; fuggetaboutit! You will really need to know how to administer the machine now. On the minus side, you will have a steep learning curve. :thumbsdown: On the plus side, when you have mastered the details you will really know how the system operates. :thumbsup:
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesI have really liked Linux as I've used it and gotten to know it better. As a programmer, it feels like "my" operating system in a way that Windows doesn't. I look forward to learning more and getting better at it. On the other hand, you're absolutely right about this being the reason that Linux doesn't have a larger foothold. As much as I like Linux, it often takes way too long to do things that take a few seconds or minutes to do on my Windows box. For my things that I need to "just work" and get done quickly, I still do them on my Windows OS. Don't get me wrong: Linux has made huge strides as far as usability goes, as evidenced by Ubuntu. However, there are still those things that would be really difficult for a consumer to do or figure out and I believe that is why Linux is still not as popular as the other OSs, even though it's "free as in beer." This isn't necessarily a bad thing, though. Look what you get with consumerization: Gnome3, Unity and Metro. I'm super grateful, though, that Linux's modularity allows me to dump parts I don't like and swap in parts that I prefer. That, I think, is its biggest strength. Like I said, Linux has made some great strides where usability is concerned and I do see it one day gaining widespread popularity on the desktop among technologists and consumers alike.
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I absolutely understand. I did it when I was running Windows XP. What I ended up doing was running the applications that I would run in Ubuntu (back then it was Ubuntu 6.06) on Windows XP. As I got use to them there was a point in time, where I was using more of these tools. So I moved from that to running Ubuntu in a virtual machine. I learned from that how the file system works, and also how to do basic networking. I then started using the Ubuntu virtual machine so much that I decided to switch the equation, so that Ubuntu was the host and Windows XP was the guest. Over time I found myself using XP less and less. I now use the XP VM just for testing websites in IE and my current ASP.NET investigations. I also had a lot of problems like you, when doing the final switch from XP to Ubuntu, except I also had a strange problem where if I set my startup display in the BIOS to the graphics card (ATI Radieon 9200SE), Xorg would not start correctly, however if I had my on board graphics card set. and my Monitor connected to the Radieon, it would work perfectly. BTW I have been a PHP developer for 8 years, and I am doing some investigation on how good ASP.NET actually is. I am so use to everything being so simple and dynamic in PHP. Simple applications that requires authentication, simple form validation and output (for example is the email supplied a valid email address) seems so complicated for what it actually is. All I am trying to do is a simple CMS that has search engine friendly URLs. In PHP it takes about all of 30 mins. However I seem to be fighting VS2010 more than I am actually writing code and I have spent more than 3 days and got nowhere. So your not alone!!! However I am sure its just because I am use to the PHP ways of doing it, and I will get use to it.
ziggyfish wrote:
I am doing some investigation on how good ASP.NET actually is
Look into MVC (RAZOR view engine). I like it better than WinForms.
ziggyfish wrote:
I have been a PHP developer for 8 years
I used to be a PHP developer but have been doing ASP.NET for the past 4 years, a long term contract. I want to look into Ruby On Rails (MVC) for any Apache imnplementations I do in the future.
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ziggyfish wrote:
I am doing some investigation on how good ASP.NET actually is
Look into MVC (RAZOR view engine). I like it better than WinForms.
ziggyfish wrote:
I have been a PHP developer for 8 years
I used to be a PHP developer but have been doing ASP.NET for the past 4 years, a long term contract. I want to look into Ruby On Rails (MVC) for any Apache imnplementations I do in the future.
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
ziggyfish wrote:
I am doing some investigation on how good ASP.NET actually is
Look into MVC (RAZOR view engine). I like it better than WinForms.
So the ASP.NET's MVC isn't that good? I use the Zend Framework in a lot of my work which is a MVC. ZF has some really cool features that I really like. For example forms display, validation and CRUD are very elegant in ZF. Also Magento is based of ZF as well, which made it very easy to learn Magento.
JimmyRopes wrote:
ziggyfish wrote:
I have been a PHP developer for 8 years
I used to be a PHP developer but have been doing ASP.NET for the past 4 years, a long term contract. I want to look into Ruby On Rails (MVC) for any Apache imnplementations I do in the future.
I've worked with Rails for a while as well, its a nice framework to work with although I not really a fan of the Ruby language . A lot of ZF has been inspired by Rails.
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And so far, I am not impressed. It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion, and I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan. In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
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And so far, I am not impressed. It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion, and I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan. In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
You'll also find that asking something like this will result in a gui vs console or windows vs unix war between fanboys and not really help with your issue. What version of ubuntu are you using?
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You'll also find that asking something like this will result in a gui vs console or windows vs unix war between fanboys and not really help with your issue. What version of ubuntu are you using?
Hehe, indeed. I'm a staunch GUI man; this is 2012. I'm using 12.04.