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    Lost User
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    Your thoughts on asp.MVC ? I have done MVC 2 and I sort of noticed that its a moving target ( methods being deprecated etc ). I've used it for some projects and not for others( n-tier instead). Does anyone think it should be used for everything ? Your thoughts pls ..

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      Your thoughts on asp.MVC ? I have done MVC 2 and I sort of noticed that its a moving target ( methods being deprecated etc ). I've used it for some projects and not for others( n-tier instead). Does anyone think it should be used for everything ? Your thoughts pls ..

      ================================================== --I am the STIG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      Clifford Nelson
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      Personally I think they should just drop MVC and go to MVVM. I think that it has to be a better concept. Of course I am definately biased.

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        Your thoughts on asp.MVC ? I have done MVC 2 and I sort of noticed that its a moving target ( methods being deprecated etc ). I've used it for some projects and not for others( n-tier instead). Does anyone think it should be used for everything ? Your thoughts pls ..

        ================================================== --I am the STIG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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        I've been messing around with MVC 3 and I'm not certain I really understand it yet. I've been through the MVC Music Store tutorial and some things make sense, but some of it seems a little too magic for my tastes. But, I'm still plugging along with the evaluation as I've been asked to work on a help ticket system and MVC does look like it will simplify the coding if I can get the individual processes to gel in my brain. Otherwise, I'll just n-tier it and call it good. :-\ As for whether it should be used foe everything? No. Like any technology, it should be used where it makes sense. Flynn


        _If we can't corrupt the youth of today,
        the adults of tomorrow will be no fun...
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        • L Lost User

          Your thoughts on asp.MVC ? I have done MVC 2 and I sort of noticed that its a moving target ( methods being deprecated etc ). I've used it for some projects and not for others( n-tier instead). Does anyone think it should be used for everything ? Your thoughts pls ..

          ================================================== --I am the STIG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          Roger Wright
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          Nothing should be used for everything. But it is a pretty good model for a lot of things. Use it wisely.

          Will Rogers never met me.

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            Your thoughts on asp.MVC ? I have done MVC 2 and I sort of noticed that its a moving target ( methods being deprecated etc ). I've used it for some projects and not for others( n-tier instead). Does anyone think it should be used for everything ? Your thoughts pls ..

            ================================================== --I am the STIG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            Pete OHanlon
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            While I like MVC, I find that Razor 1 can be far too slow in page routing and manipulation. As I tend to prefer to do a lot of callback stuff, I do most of the page manipulation with jQuery and Knockout.js.

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              While I like MVC, I find that Razor 1 can be far too slow in page routing and manipulation. As I tend to prefer to do a lot of callback stuff, I do most of the page manipulation with jQuery and Knockout.js.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

              CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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              LOVE knockout.js - haven't used it overly but I'm more and more leaning toward the plain old vanilla html using knockout and jQuery and web service calls to do everything

              MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                LOVE knockout.js - haven't used it overly but I'm more and more leaning toward the plain old vanilla html using knockout and jQuery and web service calls to do everything

                MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                It's certainly made my life easier. I find that, combined with WCF REST, we can create something that is far more responsive and which offers a slicker feel for the client.

                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                  Personally I think they should just drop MVC and go to MVVM. I think that it has to be a better concept. Of course I am definately biased.

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                  BobJanova
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                  MVC pretty much is MVVM, the 'controller' isn't actually controlling anything, it's providing access and behaviour for the view.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Your thoughts on asp.MVC ? I have done MVC 2 and I sort of noticed that its a moving target ( methods being deprecated etc ). I've used it for some projects and not for others( n-tier instead). Does anyone think it should be used for everything ? Your thoughts pls ..

                    ================================================== --I am the STIG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    BobJanova
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                    I like it. I've always hated WebForms and MVC is a return to a simpler world, more like PHP, where you get direct control over markup and interactions with the server. Like Pete though, I typically write low level markup and explicit JavaScript to do AJAX for page updates and interactive stuff.

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                    • B BobJanova

                      MVC pretty much is MVVM, the 'controller' isn't actually controlling anything, it's providing access and behaviour for the view.

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                      Clifford Nelson
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                      Thanks, my 5

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