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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    Just pick another name.

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    Hamed Musavi
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    That actually came into my mind too! ;-) My action won't change the reality of this problem in economy and specifically here, in our world.

    Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
    Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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    • H Hamed Musavi

      Some people earn money without adding any value to economy. Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

      Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
      Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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      Lost User
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      I had a domain name expire. It was snagged by one of these guys within days. It is a waste of his money because I won't ever do business with these guys.

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      • H Hamed Musavi

        Some people earn money without adding any value to economy. Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

        Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
        Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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        Lost User
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        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

        Some people earn money without adding any value to economy.

        Lots of people would die if they'd have to pay for their food from the value they add. It's an evolutionary advantage; maximize your gain, minimize the effort.

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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        • H Hamed Musavi

          Some people earn money without adding any value to economy. Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

          Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
          Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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          AspDotNetDev
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          I'm one of those assholes. I have about 100 domains, and some I put up for auction (just in case somebody wants to give me money for them). The bulk of them, however, are for various ideas I may want to implement over the rest of my life. I think of them as an insurance policy to be sure I'll have a domain if I ever follow through with my ideas. There is also a domain being sold for nearly $10,000 that I really want. I suspect it'll be sold by the time I can afford it (years from now), but I'm hopeful it will lower in price eventually. It's a shame that so many domains are unused, but though they are virtual they are still of value, and anything of value will be accumulated and sold. In the case of the domain I want, I consider myself lucky that it is even an option to buy it.

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          • H Hamed Musavi

            Some people earn money without adding any value to economy. Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

            Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
            Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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            Mladen Jankovic
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            Hamed Mosavi wrote:

            Some people earn money without adding any value to economy.

            So?

            GALex

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            • M Maximilien

              (disclaimer, IANAL and TINLA) I don't know if it applies to to every jurisdiction, but if you want to register a domain based on your real name and it has been hijacked by someone else, you could argue in some sort of court to have it released to you for registration. I think I've seen it done for businesses, but I assume it could work for individuals.

              Nihil obstat

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              Mladen Jankovic
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              Maximilien wrote:

              I think I've seen it done for businesses

              It's probably because they had registered trademarks.

              GALex

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              • A AspDotNetDev

                I'm one of those assholes. I have about 100 domains, and some I put up for auction (just in case somebody wants to give me money for them). The bulk of them, however, are for various ideas I may want to implement over the rest of my life. I think of them as an insurance policy to be sure I'll have a domain if I ever follow through with my ideas. There is also a domain being sold for nearly $10,000 that I really want. I suspect it'll be sold by the time I can afford it (years from now), but I'm hopeful it will lower in price eventually. It's a shame that so many domains are unused, but though they are virtual they are still of value, and anything of value will be accumulated and sold. In the case of the domain I want, I consider myself lucky that it is even an option to buy it.

                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                Hamed Musavi
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                AspDotNetDev wrote:

                I'm one of those a**holes.

                No you're not. Based on what you wrote, I'd say you are worried. Although part of this state in my opinion is rooted the real problem of possibility of lack of the right name when you need it, but since you aren't faced with the problem right now, this mindset I believe is nervousness. I too suffer from it. Nervousness, if not fought with, might extend to other areas of life too. ;-)

                Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                  Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                  Some people earn money without adding any value to economy.

                  So?

                  GALex

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                  Hamed Musavi
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                  Mladen Janković wrote:

                  So?

                  So, the money they earn is not added to the system, so they are stealing money from others. And so if you are interested, let's discuss it!

                  Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                  Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                  • H Hamed Musavi

                    AspDotNetDev wrote:

                    I'm one of those a**holes.

                    No you're not. Based on what you wrote, I'd say you are worried. Although part of this state in my opinion is rooted the real problem of possibility of lack of the right name when you need it, but since you aren't faced with the problem right now, this mindset I believe is nervousness. I too suffer from it. Nervousness, if not fought with, might extend to other areas of life too. ;-)

                    Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                    Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                    AspDotNetDev
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                    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                    Nervousness, if not fought with, might extend to other areas of life too.

                    Luckily they have pills for that. :~

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                      Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                      Some people earn money without adding any value to economy.

                      Lots of people would die if they'd have to pay for their food from the value they add. It's an evolutionary advantage; maximize your gain, minimize the effort.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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                      Hamed Musavi
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                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      It's an evolutionary advantage; maximize your gain, minimize the effort.

                      No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that. Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species. Some worms don't have it and don't care if by moving over their new born children, they even kill some. We aren't like that. If someone is, he has brain issues.

                      Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                      Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                      • A AspDotNetDev

                        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                        Nervousness, if not fought with, might extend to other areas of life too.

                        Luckily they have pills for that. :~

                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                        Hamed Musavi
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                        Yes! :-D

                        Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                        Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                        • H Hamed Musavi

                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          It's an evolutionary advantage; maximize your gain, minimize the effort.

                          No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that. Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species. Some worms don't have it and don't care if by moving over their new born children, they even kill some. We aren't like that. If someone is, he has brain issues.

                          Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                          Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                          Lost User
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                          Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                          No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

                          Whehe, altruism brings a lot more magic than egotism, you're right there. Still, looks as if those without a consciousness are winning :(

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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                            Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                            No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

                            Whehe, altruism brings a lot more magic than egotism, you're right there. Still, looks as if those without a consciousness are winning :(

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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                            Hamed Musavi
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                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            Still, looks as if those without a consciousness are winning

                            I think winners aren't the most happy or successful among us. I value happiness and success in life, more than winning a lot of money but this is just a personal idea. :-)

                            Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                            Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                            • H Hamed Musavi

                              Some people earn money without adding any value to economy. Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

                              Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                              Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                              Mark H2
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                              Buy low, sell high. Hmmm, sounds like foreign currency trading, share trading and any number of other things in our capitalist economy/society. It ain't new. So why get upset about domain names?

                              If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.

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                                Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                Earning money by making life of others worse is a shame, I believe.

                                No, it's just capitalism.

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                                M Badger
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                                Upvote (if it were enabled). Couldn't be put more simply or more concisely, so I won't try. Ya chooses yer politics then ya win some then ya lose some, yer just lose different things and win sum uvers...

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                                • H Hamed Musavi

                                  That actually came into my mind too! ;-) My action won't change the reality of this problem in economy and specifically here, in our world.

                                  Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                  Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                  RabinDl
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                                  In fact if everyone had did like you did, this problem wouldn't exist :) Peace:thumbsup:

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                                  • H Hamed Musavi

                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    Still, looks as if those without a consciousness are winning

                                    I think winners aren't the most happy or successful among us. I value happiness and success in life, more than winning a lot of money but this is just a personal idea. :-)

                                    Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                    Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                    I think winners aren't the most happy or successful among us

                                    Philosophy; what is it that makes us happy, besides the arguments mentioned in Maslovs' pyramid? Aren't we "just animals", deep within? Driven by the four f...'s?

                                    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                    I value happiness and success in life, more than winning a lot of money but this is just a personal idea. :)

                                    The theory of evolution says you have to attempt to multiply your DNA as good as posssible. ..but happiness, is simply a cop o' coffee in the morning. Guess it'll depend on your definition of "happiness".

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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                                      Upvote (if it were enabled). Couldn't be put more simply or more concisely, so I won't try. Ya chooses yer politics then ya win some then ya lose some, yer just lose different things and win sum uvers...

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Mike-MadBadger wrote:

                                      Ya chooses yer politics then ya win some then ya lose some, yer just lose different things and win sum uvers...

                                      Yelling about homosexuality outside of a slain soldier's funeral: Free speech: Yes. Arse-hats: Yes. Domain name camping: Capitalism: Yes. Arse-hats: Yes. Telling bad jokes in The Lounge because the voting system is down: Opportunism: Yes. Arse-hats: Jury still out.

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                                      • H Hamed Musavi

                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        It's an evolutionary advantage; maximize your gain, minimize the effort.

                                        No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that. Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species. Some worms don't have it and don't care if by moving over their new born children, they even kill some. We aren't like that. If someone is, he has brain issues.

                                        Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                        Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                        jschell
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                                        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                        No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

                                        Incorrect.

                                        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                        Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species

                                        How is caring for the species not in fact a gain? And that ignores the fact that it just isn't true. Armies have been killing civilians, including women and children for a long time specifically for gain. Altruism in its modern form it based on plenty. If I have plenty of food (and other life necessities) then I can rationalize giving it away in any way that I want but it doesn't alter the fact that there is only because there is extra that it happens. Other than that theories for genetic altruism are based on the idea that one is protecting the genetic pool by caring for ones children, near relatives and social community. That however is still based on protecting genetics which is a gain.

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                                        • H Hamed Musavi

                                          Some people earn money without adding any value to economy. Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

                                          Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                          Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                          jschell
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                                          Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                          Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

                                          Register your business using that name, conduct some commerce using it for a while, and then require them to give it up. See the ICANN rule b-i. http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp/policy[^]

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