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  • H Hamed Musavi

    I have some questions about article licenses: 1. Are article licences valid globally? 2. How practical are they? 3. If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article? Thank you so much in advanced. :-)

    Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
    Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

    If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article?

    It's probably enough to stop someone else from patenting the idea. But we need the input from lawyers to answer that correctly. And it depends on the country. If you want to block someone else from using your idea, you need to patent it yourself.

    People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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    • H Hamed Musavi

      I have some questions about article licenses: 1. Are article licences valid globally? 2. How practical are they? 3. If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article? Thank you so much in advanced. :-)

      Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
      Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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      peterchen
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      1. They express intent. Globally. What varies across the globe is what can be done to you if you don't stick to them. Now, I doubt the typical CPian will sue you for not using the code accordng to licence - OTOH, you might run into one who made his millions already and has nothing better to do with the summer than to sue your ass into oblivion. Or he's good friends with Ivan. 2. They also intend to hold you free of harm when someone uses your code. I haven't heard of a CPian sued into oblivion for malfunction of his code, so maybe that part is actually effective. 3. No. Yes.

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      • J Jorgen Andersson

        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

        If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article?

        It's probably enough to stop someone else from patenting the idea. But we need the input from lawyers to answer that correctly. And it depends on the country. If you want to block someone else from using your idea, you need to patent it yourself.

        People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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        Lost User
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        It should probably count as prior art, but you can patent rounded rectangles these days so I wouldn't count on it too much.

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        • P peterchen

          1. They express intent. Globally. What varies across the globe is what can be done to you if you don't stick to them. Now, I doubt the typical CPian will sue you for not using the code accordng to licence - OTOH, you might run into one who made his millions already and has nothing better to do with the summer than to sue your ass into oblivion. Or he's good friends with Ivan. 2. They also intend to hold you free of harm when someone uses your code. I haven't heard of a CPian sued into oblivion for malfunction of his code, so maybe that part is actually effective. 3. No. Yes.

          ORDER BY what user wants

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          Hamed Musavi
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          Thank you. :-)

          Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
          Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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          • J Jorgen Andersson

            Hamed Mosavi wrote:

            If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article?

            It's probably enough to stop someone else from patenting the idea. But we need the input from lawyers to answer that correctly. And it depends on the country. If you want to block someone else from using your idea, you need to patent it yourself.

            People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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            Hamed Musavi
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            Thank you. :-)

            Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
            Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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            • H Hamed Musavi

              I have some questions about article licenses: 1. Are article licences valid globally? 2. How practical are they? 3. If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article? Thank you so much in advanced. :-)

              Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
              Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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              H Brydon
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              Hamed Mosavi wrote:

              3. If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article?

              Once you publish anything anywhere for any reason it becomes prior art. The license can apply to use of your article but the idea(s) behind it are available to the world. A patent is required to protect the idea.

              -- Harvey

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              • J Jorgen Andersson

                Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article?

                It's probably enough to stop someone else from patenting the idea. But we need the input from lawyers to answer that correctly. And it depends on the country. If you want to block someone else from using your idea, you need to patent it yourself.

                People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                If you want to block someone else from using your idea, you need to patent it yourself.

                Yeah, as if that'll work. :rolleyes:

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                • H Hamed Musavi

                  I have some questions about article licenses: 1. Are article licences valid globally? 2. How practical are they? 3. If an idea is introduced in an article and a patent isn't filed for that, then is the license enough to keep others from coping the idea or it applies only to the article? Thank you so much in advanced. :-)

                  Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                  Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  It's all just words. Don't place any stock in them.

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                    If you want to block someone else from using your idea, you need to patent it yourself.

                    Yeah, as if that'll work. :rolleyes:

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    Well, it's the only legal way I know about. There's plenty of illegal ways though, several of them includes threats of bodily harm, but I don't think it's a good idea to propose that here. :)

                    People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                      Well, it's the only legal way I know about. There's plenty of illegal ways though, several of them includes threats of bodily harm, but I don't think it's a good idea to propose that here. :)

                      People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Legal schmegal; outlaws, by definition, don't obey laws.

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