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  • W wizardzz

    First degree murder doesn't carry the death penalty in my state, yet cops will legally shoot to kill in order to save their own or their partner's lives. If someone is attempting to murder you or another, you have the legal right to defend yourself, regardless of the sentence the courts would give them. It's interesting that you have a difficult time with the legal precedent that an officer's life is more valuable to society than a criminal's. Have you ever been the victim of a violent crime? Anyone in your family ever have to defend themselves with deadly force?

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    BobJanova
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    If it is really 'you or them' then that is one thing. That clearly isn't the case for the passenger, at least, in this case. Policemen all over the world manage to deal with dangerous high speed pursuits and people that are trying to ram them without going movie-crazy with a hail of bullets through the car.

    wizardzz wrote:

    Anyone in your family ever have to defend themselves with deadly force?

    Well, no. I live in a civilised country where that sort of thing doesn't happen.

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      If it is really 'you or them' then that is one thing. That clearly isn't the case for the passenger, at least, in this case. Policemen all over the world manage to deal with dangerous high speed pursuits and people that are trying to ram them without going movie-crazy with a hail of bullets through the car.

      wizardzz wrote:

      Anyone in your family ever have to defend themselves with deadly force?

      Well, no. I live in a civilised country where that sort of thing doesn't happen.

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      wizardzz
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      BobJanova wrote:

      Well, no. I live in a civilised country where that sort of thing doesn't happen.

      Yeah, your race riots proved that.

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      • B BobJanova

        Being in the military doesn't give you a right to shoot civilians. That's what the military police is for.

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        realJSOP
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        When you're standing watch, on your ship, you are effectively the "military police". They give the petty officer of the watch a sidearm for a reason (mostly to repel illegal borders which is exactly what I was doing). Have you ever served in the US military - or ANY military? And just to help you over your confusion, being in the military and having shot someone doesn't automatically make someone "gun crazy".

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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        • B BobJanova

          Being in the military doesn't give you a right to shoot civilians. That's what the military police is for.

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          jschell
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          BobJanova wrote:

          Being in the military doesn't give you a right to shoot civilians. That's what the military police is for.

          As I thought...you just don't have any understanding about what you are talking about.

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