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  • B Brisingr Aerowing

    Try Explorer++[^]. I am not sure if it will work (I have never had a bad connection to a server), but it has a lot of super cool features. There is also a Portable Version[^].

    Bob Dole

    The internet is a great way to get on the net.

    :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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    Dave Calkins
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    Just tried it -- same thing as Windows Explorer. I typed \\servername in the top field and the app just hung and became completely unresponsive. I think the server isn't responding promptly, but just as with Windows Explorer the app completely hangs as a result for some reason. Thanks for the suggestion though, it still looks like a nice utility to have.

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    • B Brisingr Aerowing

      Try Explorer++[^]. I am not sure if it will work (I have never had a bad connection to a server), but it has a lot of super cool features. There is also a Portable Version[^].

      Bob Dole

      The internet is a great way to get on the net.

      :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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      Also, after waiting for the list of files to show, I tried copying a file to my local machine (same one I was trying to get to before). I noticed the standard Win8 progress window pop up and the app behave the same way as Explorer. App completely hung and the copy was sort of stalled or something. I tried cancelling and the cancel request hung too. I think Explorer++ just uses the regular windows file copy which is whats having the problem so using Explorer++ doesn't really help.

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      • B Brisingr Aerowing

        Try Explorer++[^]. I am not sure if it will work (I have never had a bad connection to a server), but it has a lot of super cool features. There is also a Portable Version[^].

        Bob Dole

        The internet is a great way to get on the net.

        :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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        Dave Calkins
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        Also, when you open a new tab and type in \\servername the rest of the app is unusable while its talking to the server. You can't switch to another tab and work with local files while its attempting to get the file list from the server. All these replies to simply say, its the same issue as with Windows explorer.

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        • D Dave Calkins

          I think every version of Windows has had this issue going back as far as I can remember. When trying to copy a file from a remote file server and the connection is less than stellar Explorer will hang. This happens often enough that you have to scratch your head and wonder why. This even applies to Windows 8. Just tried copying a file from a work server over VPN on the laptop and, sure enough, Explorer hangs and becomes unresponsive. its like the connection isn't great and/or the server isn't responding, which happens, but explorer will just hang in these situations. Then, it'll also hang when you attempt to cancel it. Not sure what's going on, maybe the remote server isn't sending back the response Explorer (or the SMB subsystem) is waiting for. Its enough to make you want to write your own SMB client or something :) Seems like this issue persists through every new version of Windows as well. Is there some magic setting I'm missing? I wonder if Samba experiences this same sort of behavior?

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          Brisingr Aerowing
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          Teracopy[^]?

          Bob Dole

          The internet is a great way to get on the net.

          :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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          • B Brisingr Aerowing

            Teracopy[^]?

            Bob Dole

            The internet is a great way to get on the net.

            :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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            Dave Calkins
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            Nice! Thanks for the link. Just tried it and it looks like it'll be a nice tool to have in the tookit. Granted, by the time I tried it the network issue was resolved and the copying is fine now. But I'll definitely pull it out if I run into this again and see how it handles it.

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              I think every version of Windows has had this issue going back as far as I can remember. When trying to copy a file from a remote file server and the connection is less than stellar Explorer will hang. This happens often enough that you have to scratch your head and wonder why. This even applies to Windows 8. Just tried copying a file from a work server over VPN on the laptop and, sure enough, Explorer hangs and becomes unresponsive. its like the connection isn't great and/or the server isn't responding, which happens, but explorer will just hang in these situations. Then, it'll also hang when you attempt to cancel it. Not sure what's going on, maybe the remote server isn't sending back the response Explorer (or the SMB subsystem) is waiting for. Its enough to make you want to write your own SMB client or something :) Seems like this issue persists through every new version of Windows as well. Is there some magic setting I'm missing? I wonder if Samba experiences this same sort of behavior?

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              Roger Wright
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              Dave Calkins wrote:

              like the connection isn't great and/or the server isn't responding, which happens, but explorer will just hang in these situations

              It's well known that Internet Explorer sucks; apparently it doesn't suck hard enough to complete the file transfer, though.

              Will Rogers never met me.

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                I think every version of Windows has had this issue going back as far as I can remember. When trying to copy a file from a remote file server and the connection is less than stellar Explorer will hang. This happens often enough that you have to scratch your head and wonder why. This even applies to Windows 8. Just tried copying a file from a work server over VPN on the laptop and, sure enough, Explorer hangs and becomes unresponsive. its like the connection isn't great and/or the server isn't responding, which happens, but explorer will just hang in these situations. Then, it'll also hang when you attempt to cancel it. Not sure what's going on, maybe the remote server isn't sending back the response Explorer (or the SMB subsystem) is waiting for. Its enough to make you want to write your own SMB client or something :) Seems like this issue persists through every new version of Windows as well. Is there some magic setting I'm missing? I wonder if Samba experiences this same sort of behavior?

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                AspDotNetDev
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                It's even worse on Macs. Whenever my coworkers encounter network issues (which happens a lot), crazy things happen. They have to force quit things, and sometimes restart. Seriously, you'd think they could build in a little fault tolerance and maybe background processing so a network issue doesn't block the UI.

                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                • D Dave Calkins

                  Nice! Thanks for the link. Just tried it and it looks like it'll be a nice tool to have in the tookit. Granted, by the time I tried it the network issue was resolved and the copying is fine now. But I'll definitely pull it out if I run into this again and see how it handles it.

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                  Brisingr Aerowing
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                  Teracopy can actually be configured as the default copy handler for shell copy operations.

                  Bob Dole

                  The internet is a great way to get on the net.

                  :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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                    Dave Calkins wrote:

                    like the connection isn't great and/or the server isn't responding, which happens, but explorer will just hang in these situations

                    It's well known that Internet Explorer sucks; apparently it doesn't suck hard enough to complete the file transfer, though.

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Brisingr Aerowing
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                    Windows Explorer != Internet Explorer Windows Explorer == File Manager Internet Explorer == Buggy HTML Renderer used only to download an actual Web Browser, like Chrome.

                    Bob Dole

                    The internet is a great way to get on the net.

                    :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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                    • B Brisingr Aerowing

                      Teracopy can actually be configured as the default copy handler for shell copy operations.

                      Bob Dole

                      The internet is a great way to get on the net.

                      :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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                      Dave Calkins
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                      Looks like that happens automatically when you install it. After installing I tried copying another file from the server via copy/paste and TeraCopy jumped in and did it.

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                      • D Dave Calkins

                        Looks like that happens automatically when you install it. After installing I tried copying another file from the server via copy/paste and TeraCopy jumped in and did it.

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                        Brisingr Aerowing
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                        You had to enable that in an older version, it wasn't enabled by default. Haven't used it in a while, so I did not know that.

                        Bob Dole

                        The internet is a great way to get on the net.

                        :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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