Microsoft fined $730M
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So, this[^] is a little bit of Netscape Navigator dejavu, but I would like to know if apple face these same regulatory requirements? I recently started using OSX for the first time and I can't recall ever being offered a choice between Safari and say, Google Chrome, or whichever other browsers... What about mobile devices... Android, iOS, Windows Phone, do these platforms have to give you an option as to what your default browser is?
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So, this[^] is a little bit of Netscape Navigator dejavu, but I would like to know if apple face these same regulatory requirements? I recently started using OSX for the first time and I can't recall ever being offered a choice between Safari and say, Google Chrome, or whichever other browsers... What about mobile devices... Android, iOS, Windows Phone, do these platforms have to give you an option as to what your default browser is?
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So, this[^] is a little bit of Netscape Navigator dejavu, but I would like to know if apple face these same regulatory requirements? I recently started using OSX for the first time and I can't recall ever being offered a choice between Safari and say, Google Chrome, or whichever other browsers... What about mobile devices... Android, iOS, Windows Phone, do these platforms have to give you an option as to what your default browser is?
I really don't get the reason for the fine - my theory is that those people who are not going to use IE will install another browser anyway irrespective of having the choice presented to them. In other words those people who are offered the choice will still choose IE as they have always been using it and making their decision at the OS install choice point is unlikely - it would be interesting to find some stats on how many people would choose another browser given the choice, to help debunk my theory.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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So, this[^] is a little bit of Netscape Navigator dejavu, but I would like to know if apple face these same regulatory requirements? I recently started using OSX for the first time and I can't recall ever being offered a choice between Safari and say, Google Chrome, or whichever other browsers... What about mobile devices... Android, iOS, Windows Phone, do these platforms have to give you an option as to what your default browser is?
MatthysDT wrote:
I recently started using OSX for the first time and I can't recall ever being offered a choice between Safari and say, Google Chrome, or whichever other browsers...
What about mobile devices... Android, iOS, Windows Phone, do these platforms have to give you an option as to what your default browser is?They haven't been ordered to by a court of law, so are not in contempt of court. If they had any sense, they'd sort it out sooner, rather than later.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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So, this[^] is a little bit of Netscape Navigator dejavu, but I would like to know if apple face these same regulatory requirements? I recently started using OSX for the first time and I can't recall ever being offered a choice between Safari and say, Google Chrome, or whichever other browsers... What about mobile devices... Android, iOS, Windows Phone, do these platforms have to give you an option as to what your default browser is?
I've thought this whole thing was a load of horse shit from the very beginning. Being forced to offer up your competitors' products against your own is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen. It would be like going to a Ferrari dealership and the salesman says, "Are you sure you don't want a nice Lamborghini instead, or maybe a Porsche?" :mad: Also, as you mentioned, there is a massive double standard when it comes to other companies, such as Apple with Safari. No one wants to use that, but Apple is allowed to shove it down our throats with every OS X install... X|
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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I really don't get the reason for the fine - my theory is that those people who are not going to use IE will install another browser anyway irrespective of having the choice presented to them. In other words those people who are offered the choice will still choose IE as they have always been using it and making their decision at the OS install choice point is unlikely - it would be interesting to find some stats on how many people would choose another browser given the choice, to help debunk my theory.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
GuyThiebaut wrote:
In other words those people who are offered the choice will still choose IE as they have always been using it and making their decision at the OS install choice point is unlikely
Especially during those silent, unattended installs.
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I really don't get the reason for the fine - my theory is that those people who are not going to use IE will install another browser anyway irrespective of having the choice presented to them. In other words those people who are offered the choice will still choose IE as they have always been using it and making their decision at the OS install choice point is unlikely - it would be interesting to find some stats on how many people would choose another browser given the choice, to help debunk my theory.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
I really don't get the reason for the fine -
Because the previous settlement required it.
What I mean is from a practical standpoint it just does not make sense to me, in other words the previous settlement. Apple are way more restrictive and selfish in their hardware and software than Microsoft are...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I really don't get the reason for the fine - my theory is that those people who are not going to use IE will install another browser anyway irrespective of having the choice presented to them. In other words those people who are offered the choice will still choose IE as they have always been using it and making their decision at the OS install choice point is unlikely - it would be interesting to find some stats on how many people would choose another browser given the choice, to help debunk my theory.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
When I do an install, I do an install. I've used Chrome and Firefox - they are both good. But somehow I always end up back with IE. I can't imagine being upset about not getting a choice during install.
Jim Meadors
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So, this[^] is a little bit of Netscape Navigator dejavu, but I would like to know if apple face these same regulatory requirements? I recently started using OSX for the first time and I can't recall ever being offered a choice between Safari and say, Google Chrome, or whichever other browsers... What about mobile devices... Android, iOS, Windows Phone, do these platforms have to give you an option as to what your default browser is?
Proof that the law is an ass, anywhere in the world!
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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Proof that the law is an ass, anywhere in the world!
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
MS used to have an overwhelming majority market share, but times have changed and this anti-trust agreement should be either enforced equally across the board, or thrown out. Microsoft is being given a thorough playground wedgie, and doing nothing about it. Kinda wimpy of them I think.