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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    A converted try does not a convincing victory make. Then again, England cracked in Cardiff and Ireland imploded in Italy. Shyte weekend all round really.

    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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    Rhys Gravell
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    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

    England cracked in Cardiff

    England didn't crack, they were soundly thrashed, then thrashed some more. They were over-powered, outplayed, and had their shortcomings thoroughly targeted and ruthlessly exposed. Wales haven't played like that for a long, long time and actually displayed some of the ability that most people knew they had. It could have been both a lot closer had Tuilagi not butchered a 3 on 1 overlap and had Farrell made his kicks, and a lot further apart if England hadn't put their bodies on the line for the first forty minutes, like that tap tackle on North.

    Rhys "If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"

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      PHS241 wrote:

      If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

      Since when are Ali and you married :rolleyes: ?

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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      Septimus Hedgehog
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      It's a lady-thing. She occasionally buys the more expensive bars of chocolate. I nicked a square one day. I might have got away with it if I'd nicked a row of two squares but being a bloke, I didn't think of that. When she got home and went for some, she of course noticed. She barked at me "Have you been eating my chocolate." FTFY. If it had been a bowl of porridge I might got away with the crime. But chocolate? Tread carefully.

      If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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      • R Rhys Gravell

        For sale; selection of chariots, all missing wheels which appear to have come off at some point between 17:00 and 19:00 on Saturday evening. Interested parties please contact Millennium Stadium, Cardiff ;P

        Rhys "If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"

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        That was a horribly disappointing way to spend a Saturday afternoon. We (England) were just off the pace in some crucial areas of the field. If Farrell had put those two kicks over then we'd have been 3 points behind, not 9, and we did screw up one or two good chances of a try – but Farrell was off his game (I thought Flood was unlucky not to start and it turns out maybe he should have done) and so were the backs. And then we lost control of the forward battle too in the second half and then it was really all over.

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          PHS241 wrote:

          Michalak is cited for that behind-the-player swipe to the neck.

          Will have to look that one up, I missed it. But he is injured, so he'd probably already been punished for that - the rugby way of justice. :)

          PHS241 wrote:

          have slammed Thierry Dusautoir

          Not sure I agree here, because he was often saluted as the best player, even in the defeat.

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          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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          His off-the-ball incident was recorded by one of the overhead cameras, the ones that give you really good overhead shots of scrums and lineouts. It happened way behind the ball so neither the ref or touch judges saw it. At ground level, we saw the punchup that followed. As it was the last match, Scotland might choose not to cite it but the IRB might decide to if they believe it's serious enough. My comments about Thierry Dusautoir and the love-hate relationship the French have with him came from an article I read about him in an English rugby magazine. He is the best open-side flanker around at this time. His record as France's skipper might not be up there with the best but he's a consistent player.

          If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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            That was a horribly disappointing way to spend a Saturday afternoon. We (England) were just off the pace in some crucial areas of the field. If Farrell had put those two kicks over then we'd have been 3 points behind, not 9, and we did screw up one or two good chances of a try – but Farrell was off his game (I thought Flood was unlucky not to start and it turns out maybe he should have done) and so were the backs. And then we lost control of the forward battle too in the second half and then it was really all over.

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            BobJanova wrote:

            If Farrell had put those two kicks over then we'd have been 3 points

            That's my problem with rugby. The rules are so technical now that penalties are the main contributor to international results. Trying to encourage more open play is compromised by having to introduce more technical infringements. The five-point try is the objective. Penalties should be reduced to two points and the drop-goal to one point. I know the IRB has discussed this before so they obviously have a different perspective.

            If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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              BobJanova wrote:

              If Farrell had put those two kicks over then we'd have been 3 points

              That's my problem with rugby. The rules are so technical now that penalties are the main contributor to international results. Trying to encourage more open play is compromised by having to introduce more technical infringements. The five-point try is the objective. Penalties should be reduced to two points and the drop-goal to one point. I know the IRB has discussed this before so they obviously have a different perspective.

              If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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              Why reduce drop goals? They take quite a lot of skill, and they're definitely not over-used in the international game as it stands. I'd go with simply dropping penalties to 2, or making a lot more offences punishable by a free kick instead of a penalty (offside and most of the breakdown-related infringements seem to me to not really justify a 3 point penalty).

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                Why reduce drop goals? They take quite a lot of skill, and they're definitely not over-used in the international game as it stands. I'd go with simply dropping penalties to 2, or making a lot more offences punishable by a free kick instead of a penalty (offside and most of the breakdown-related infringements seem to me to not really justify a 3 point penalty).

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                Septimus Hedgehog
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                I can see the objection to drop goals because they do indeed require skill and even on a good day the success rate is likely to be well than 50/50. Free kicks, yes, there should be more scope for them. A new law change is being tested in the southern hemisphere this season but not in all tournaments and that's once the ball is deemed to be usable at the ruck the referee calls "use it" and you have five seconds to move it five meters. Whether it's needed I'm not sure. The intention of course is to get the ball out and moving again but you can do that by cleaning up the rules elsewhere. They have to tinker with the rules as players become smarter in skirting round them. It's a referee's lot in life to be moaned at but they have a lot on their plate. In a few years we may need multiple officials on the pitch. That should appeal to the septics as they love conferences and meetings. :laugh:

                If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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