Robertson and Bush...
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Yeah, that looks like a reliable source.
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I have been told that Bush receives daily recomendations from Pat Robertson on how to execute god's plan. Here is a nice background article about Robertson and Bush. American Democracy is and has been in trouble for a while(if you believe that JFK was shot by one man, there is something wrong with you), I just wish the major of Americans would see it. http://www.detnet.com/wilke/robertson1.htm[^] Later,
JoeSoxLoad my Sig here.....
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I'm sorry. I didn't receive my list of approved American citizens. :rolleyes: I guess Susan Sarandon and Barbara Streisand weren't available to consult with Bush. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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JoeSox wrote: American Democracy is and has been in trouble for a while Why is it a requirement that a president (or any political figure) be an atheist? -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"
Russell Morris wrote: Why is it a requirement that a president (or any political figure) be an atheist? It is important to keep Religion and State seperate. "Guard against those men who make a great noise about religion, when choosing your representatives....Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. " http://members.tripod.com/~candst/leland5.htm[^] Later,
JoeSoxLoad my Sig here.....
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Robert Vista wrote: Yeah, that looks like a reliable source. I don't understand, can you please expand on your thought?:confused: Later,
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He basically said your source sounds like some of the mind numbed and delusional UFO/psychic/conspiracy theories nuts we get over at JREF. (JREF being the James Randi Educational Foundation at www.randi.org[^].) Then again, I might be putting words in his mouth. :laugh: Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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JoeSox wrote: if you believe that JFK was shot by one man, there is something wrong with you I for one only believe things which can be proven. Not things that are popularized by BAD Oliver Stone Docu-Dramas. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
How can it be proven when the evidence was tampered?? Please read Best Evidence: Disguise and Deception in... (if you haven't already) and get back to me. Later,
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If I'm not mistaken Clinton got spritual/marriage advice from Jessie Jackson, who towards the end of Clinton's presidency admitted to having a child with a woman other than his wife, needless to say I feel much better about Bush being in office. Joshua Guy
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Joshua Guy wrote: I feel much better about Bush being in office I'd rather have some guy getting a BJ then some guy making money off of his wars, while getting advice from Pat Robertson.:laugh: We should just elect Homer Simpson Later,
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JoeSox wrote: if you believe that JFK was shot by one man, there is something wrong with you I for one only believe things which can be proven. Not things that are popularized by BAD Oliver Stone Docu-Dramas. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
Chris Austin wrote: I for one only believe things which can be proven. Not things that are popularized by BAD Oliver Stone Docu-Dramas So what do you believe on the matter then?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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How can it be proven when the evidence was tampered?? Please read Best Evidence: Disguise and Deception in... (if you haven't already) and get back to me. Later,
JoeSoxJoeSox wrote: Please read Best Evidence: Disguise and Deception in... (if you haven't already) and get back to me. I've read it (I think in 92 or 93 -sophomore year of collage) as well as a dozen other papers supporting a conspiracy. Hell I was the biggest conspiracy nut I knew at the time. But now, I have changed. I need hard proof if I am going to believe anything (this used to really piss off my vendors when I would ask them to "Show me the Data"). Many of these authors draw on evidence tampering, of course the ballistics, and shoddy sources. They have yet to prove it without question. Until then is just another theory in my mind. JoeSox wrote: How can it be proven when the evidence was tampered?? One could even argue that those purporting an un-proven theory are also tampering by spreading “ideas” as facts. I can’t help but remember some of the implications of Heisenberg’s principle: by measuring or interacting with a system we alter it. BTW. I’m not saying it wasn’t a conspiracy, I am just not convinced. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
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Chris Austin wrote: I for one only believe things which can be proven. Not things that are popularized by BAD Oliver Stone Docu-Dramas So what do you believe on the matter then?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
Paul Watson wrote: So what do you believe on the matter then? I believe that it hasn't been proven. And Oliver Stone movies are very BAD:). What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
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Russell Morris wrote: Why is it a requirement that a president (or any political figure) be an atheist? It is important to keep Religion and State seperate. "Guard against those men who make a great noise about religion, when choosing your representatives....Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. " http://members.tripod.com/~candst/leland5.htm[^] Later,
JoeSoxLoad my Sig here.....
JoeSox wrote: It is important to keep Religion and State seperate. Is it important to keep morality and state seperate? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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JoeSox wrote: Please read Best Evidence: Disguise and Deception in... (if you haven't already) and get back to me. I've read it (I think in 92 or 93 -sophomore year of collage) as well as a dozen other papers supporting a conspiracy. Hell I was the biggest conspiracy nut I knew at the time. But now, I have changed. I need hard proof if I am going to believe anything (this used to really piss off my vendors when I would ask them to "Show me the Data"). Many of these authors draw on evidence tampering, of course the ballistics, and shoddy sources. They have yet to prove it without question. Until then is just another theory in my mind. JoeSox wrote: How can it be proven when the evidence was tampered?? One could even argue that those purporting an un-proven theory are also tampering by spreading “ideas” as facts. I can’t help but remember some of the implications of Heisenberg’s principle: by measuring or interacting with a system we alter it. BTW. I’m not saying it wasn’t a conspiracy, I am just not convinced. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
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Paul Watson wrote: So what do you believe on the matter then? I believe that it hasn't been proven. And Oliver Stone movies are very BAD:). What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
Chris Austin wrote: Paul Watson wrote: So what do you believe on the matter then? I believe that it hasn't been proven. Damn Chris, you are taking tips from the politicians aren't you? ;) Guess many of us could learn from you in being able to admit we have no opinion on the matter when we do not know the facts.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Chris Austin wrote: BTW. ...I am just not convinced. That's the way they wanted it, for the truth to always be untold, so it will never be proven. Later,
JoeSoxThe problem is is I don't belive that there is a "they". Who are "they"? The best thing I have ever seen that has covered this is "The Ilumanatis Trilogy"...frickin hillarious. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
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JoeSox wrote: It is important to keep Religion and State seperate. Is it important to keep morality and state seperate? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
Stan Shannon wrote: Is it important to keep morality and state seperate? mo·ral·i·ty 1)The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct. 2)A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct: religious morality; Christian morality. 3)Virtuous conduct. 4)A rule or lesson in moral conduct. Which definition of "morality" are you referring to? Then I can answer your question;) Later,
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Chris Austin wrote: Paul Watson wrote: So what do you believe on the matter then? I believe that it hasn't been proven. Damn Chris, you are taking tips from the politicians aren't you? ;) Guess many of us could learn from you in being able to admit we have no opinion on the matter when we do not know the facts.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
LOL!... My biggest conflict is that I want to belive in a consiparicy. But no one has been able to prove it to me. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
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JoeSox wrote: It is important to keep Religion and State seperate. Is it important to keep morality and state seperate? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
Of course not. Faith requires Morality, but Morality doesn't require Faith. Personally, I'd be ecstatic if everyone did have Faith, but realistically it's not going to happen anytime soon...and I'd rather not have religion jammed down the throats of those who don't have Faith. It doesn't work. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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The problem is is I don't belive that there is a "they". Who are "they"? The best thing I have ever seen that has covered this is "The Ilumanatis Trilogy"...frickin hillarious. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin
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Stan Shannon wrote: Is it important to keep morality and state seperate? mo·ral·i·ty 1)The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct. 2)A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct: religious morality; Christian morality. 3)Virtuous conduct. 4)A rule or lesson in moral conduct. Which definition of "morality" are you referring to? Then I can answer your question;) Later,
JoeSoxLets go with number 1. It seems the most ambiguous. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle