Ego of programmers
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Thanks for your posts - it calms me to see, that there're still people which try to keep a good quality of knowledge exchange. (dont wann measure all the same) I agree that homework-requests are senseless. But sometimes a beginner is grateful for some lines of code or a hint to an article. So the question is - is it already a do-work-for-me-request when they're just asking for a small chunk of code? I mean, if it would take too much time, I would indeed refer him to a similar solution. "temple-of-gods" is actually hitting the point.
midnight_ wrote:
So the question is - is it already a do-work-for-me-request when they're just asking for a small chunk of code?
It depends, but that's pretty much been my experience. If they're asking for code without any attempt of their own to show and ask specifics about, then yes.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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All the years since I'm a developer, I've always used the well-known online resources to learn and improve my skill. I participated on different communities, joined workgroups and else. But one thing never changed - the ego of some programmers. There are a lot of excellent and skilled people out there - however a few of them, need to boost their ego. They teasing beginners for their requests, claim anything but their opinion is wrong, and down-vote questions they consider to be ridiculous. Is this really neccessary? Why is it even possible to downrate a question? If somebody is looking for help, why not giving him an advise? I know many people have problems to frame question correctly., but they're in a progress of getting better. Or maybe I've just a wrong point of view and you should treat the beginner just like that....
Beginners must be discouraged, there are too many sharks on this tank already... :laugh: Seriously, QA forums (here and in other sites) are usually filled with people who range from "give the codez" to "I don't know what i'm doing but sure you do an can do my work for me", I rarely if ever down vote a question (or trash a bad question), I usually guide the person into finding the solution to his/her problem (I have suggested too many times: use the goddamn Developer Tools of your browser, simply click F12 and the problem will popup right away in big red letters), but after the 10th question like this, you really start to loose your patience... A good article about this can be found here.
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All the years since I'm a developer, I've always used the well-known online resources to learn and improve my skill. I participated on different communities, joined workgroups and else. But one thing never changed - the ego of some programmers. There are a lot of excellent and skilled people out there - however a few of them, need to boost their ego. They teasing beginners for their requests, claim anything but their opinion is wrong, and down-vote questions they consider to be ridiculous. Is this really neccessary? Why is it even possible to downrate a question? If somebody is looking for help, why not giving him an advise? I know many people have problems to frame question correctly., but they're in a progress of getting better. Or maybe I've just a wrong point of view and you should treat the beginner just like that....
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All the years since I'm a developer, I've always used the well-known online resources to learn and improve my skill. I participated on different communities, joined workgroups and else. But one thing never changed - the ego of some programmers. There are a lot of excellent and skilled people out there - however a few of them, need to boost their ego. They teasing beginners for their requests, claim anything but their opinion is wrong, and down-vote questions they consider to be ridiculous. Is this really neccessary? Why is it even possible to downrate a question? If somebody is looking for help, why not giving him an advise? I know many people have problems to frame question correctly., but they're in a progress of getting better. Or maybe I've just a wrong point of view and you should treat the beginner just like that....
I know this.. and I can extend this to almost any Forum or online community... Answer like: are you really asking it? .. and then no answer to the question.... I really believe in: If someone is hungry, don't give him a fish, teach him how to fish... I think if someone ask is because he/she don't know, and you don't know why this person don't have that acknowledgment, so calling that person noob is just lack of manners. I has been always happy to teach and help people (when I can) because more that 50% of what I have learned has been from people, not from books or event from University.