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    Amitosh S.M. wrote:

    Another flop to it's counter.

    Too soon to be calling it a flop. Offtopic; you're allowed to drop anything "Mickeysoft" and go with the software of the competition :)

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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    AlphaDeltaTheta
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    Don't know why but all my grudge is against Microsoft...:confused: May be because, every now and then a Microsoft product becomes a nightmare for me.:~

    Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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    • A AlphaDeltaTheta

      Don't know why but all my grudge is against Microsoft...:confused: May be because, every now and then a Microsoft product becomes a nightmare for me.:~

      Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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      Emmanuel Medina
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      You could do worse[^]

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        You could do worse[^]

        If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right - Henry Ford Emmanuel Medina Lopez

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        AlphaDeltaTheta
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        Getting an Apple (the shiny Mac Pro) is on my wishlist. :-D

        Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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        • A AlphaDeltaTheta

          Don't know why but all my grudge is against Microsoft...:confused: May be because, every now and then a Microsoft product becomes a nightmare for me.:~

          Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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          ZurdoDev
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          Quote:

          Don't know why but all my grudge is against Microsoft

          Are you a developer using Microsoft products? If so, they pay your salary so I would be grateful for them. :)

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • A AlphaDeltaTheta

            Microsoft Mickeysoft has just reported a loss of $900m over it's (which I feel is simply a PoS) Surface RT tablets. Another flop to it's counter. Clinkety![^]

            Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.

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            Marc A Brown
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            Amitosh S.M. wrote:

            (which I feel is simply a PoS) Surface RT tablets

            Have you actually *used* one? I've owned one since day one and have been *very* happy with it.

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            • A AlphaDeltaTheta

              Don't know why but all my grudge is against Microsoft...:confused: May be because, every now and then a Microsoft product becomes a nightmare for me.:~

              Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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              Marc A Brown
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              Amitosh S.M. wrote:

              May be because, every now and then a Microsoft product becomes a nightmare for me.

              That's true of *any* company that produces *anything* that you use.

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                Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                Another flop to it's counter.

                Too soon to be calling it a flop. Offtopic; you're allowed to drop anything "Mickeysoft" and go with the software of the competition :)

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                Marc A Brown
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                Personally, the constant use of

                Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                "Mickeysoft"

                screams "troll" to me. I always :rolleyes: when I see it.

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                • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                  Microsoft Mickeysoft has just reported a loss of $900m over it's (which I feel is simply a PoS) Surface RT tablets. Another flop to it's counter. Clinkety![^]

                  Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.

                  ~ Carl von Clausewitz ~

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                  Kevin Marois
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                  It's not the tablet. It's the absurdly stupid OS they loaded on it. Oh, and let's not forget the idiotic commercials they're running trying to push this thing.

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                  • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                    Microsoft Mickeysoft has just reported a loss of $900m over it's (which I feel is simply a PoS) Surface RT tablets. Another flop to it's counter. Clinkety![^]

                    Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.

                    ~ Carl von Clausewitz ~

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                    thrakazog
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                    Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                    (which I feel is simply a PoS)

                    Why do you feel that? For doing tablet like things both the pro and rt are quite nice.

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                    • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                      Don't know why but all my grudge is against Microsoft...:confused: May be because, every now and then a Microsoft product becomes a nightmare for me.:~

                      Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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                      Lost User
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                      Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                      Don't know why but all my grudge is against Microsoft...:confused:
                      May be because, every now and then a Microsoft product becomes a nightmare for me.:~

                      Then why do you keep using and even paying for those products? Well, probably because the boss decided to put his money on a safe bet. You might want to realign your expectations.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                      • M Marc A Brown

                        Personally, the constant use of

                        Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                        "Mickeysoft"

                        screams "troll" to me. I always :rolleyes: when I see it.

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                        Lost User
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                        It's good to see something new after "M$" :cool:

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                        • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                          Microsoft Mickeysoft has just reported a loss of $900m over it's (which I feel is simply a PoS) Surface RT tablets. Another flop to it's counter. Clinkety![^]

                          Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.

                          ~ Carl von Clausewitz ~

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                          dan sh
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                          1. I am not saying MS is greatest ever. 2. You do realize how many products become a success in a product based company. 3. Of course, Surface was exciting and will always be for me. MS, just like IE, delayed release of this product(from pure business perspective). If it had released it say 3* years back, many would be drooling on it. * I really want to say 5 here but can't recall when I first saw surface running outside of debug mode.

                          "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                          • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                            Don't know why but all my grudge is against Microsoft...:confused: May be because, every now and then a Microsoft product becomes a nightmare for me.:~

                            Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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                            dan sh
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                            Don't use them then. Period.

                            "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                            • M Marc A Brown

                              Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                              (which I feel is simply a PoS) Surface RT tablets

                              Have you actually *used* one? I've owned one since day one and have been *very* happy with it.

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                              Albert Holguin
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                              I must admit... they look very neat... but I'm not sure I'm in the tablet market.

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                                I must admit... they look very neat... but I'm not sure I'm in the tablet market.

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                                Marc A Brown
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                                They're very well done. I use mine for most things I would have used a full PC for in the past -- email, web, light gaming, that sort of thing. The only thing I use my PC for now is running apps that don't run on Windows RT, app development, and heavier gaming like Dungeons & Dragons Online. When I went on vacation earlier in the summer, I left the laptop (my primary PC at the time) at home and only took my Surface. Didn't miss the laptop a bit while I was gone.

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                                  It's good to see something new after "M$" :cool:

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                                  Marc A Brown
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                                  True, but it has gotten old very quickly. I'm not a fan of Apple's stuff but I try not to come up with stupid names for them. I guess it's just something you have to outgrow.

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    It's not the tablet. It's the absurdly stupid OS they loaded on it. Oh, and let's not forget the idiotic commercials they're running trying to push this thing.

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                    And why do you consider Windows RT "absurdly stupid"? Have you actually used it? As I said in another post, it enables me to have an extremely lightweight and convenient device that does most of what I would do on a PC. Now it doesn't do *everything* of course. But I doubt I'd be comfortable doing application development on a device this size anyway. When I preordered my Surface RT, I figured I would wind up buying a Surface Pro when they came out because I'd want the additional functionality of the "full" OS. But it didn't take long for me to realize that I didn't need it for an ultraportable device like this. As to the commercials, I didn't think they were idiotic -- they were fluffy and catchy, which is what you'd expect from an introductory commercial. And now we have the Surface vs. iPad commercials that have a bit more meat (not to mention more humor) to them. But of course, taste in commercials is very subjective. :)

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                                      And why do you consider Windows RT "absurdly stupid"? Have you actually used it? As I said in another post, it enables me to have an extremely lightweight and convenient device that does most of what I would do on a PC. Now it doesn't do *everything* of course. But I doubt I'd be comfortable doing application development on a device this size anyway. When I preordered my Surface RT, I figured I would wind up buying a Surface Pro when they came out because I'd want the additional functionality of the "full" OS. But it didn't take long for me to realize that I didn't need it for an ultraportable device like this. As to the commercials, I didn't think they were idiotic -- they were fluffy and catchy, which is what you'd expect from an introductory commercial. And now we have the Surface vs. iPad commercials that have a bit more meat (not to mention more humor) to them. But of course, taste in commercials is very subjective. :)

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                                      Kevin Marois
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                                      You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but 900 million dollars in losses means many, many people disagree with you.

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                        You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but 900 million dollars in losses means many, many people disagree with you.

                                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                        Thanks for giving me permission to have my opinion! :laugh: It simply means many, many people haven't tried it. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the OS. Windows Phone hasn't exactly sold well (yet) either but it's a beautiful OS that works very well and has some phenomenal devices running it. I asked for your reasoning in calling Windows RT "idiotic" (something you didn't answer, by the way). I'm not arguing that a $900M loss is insignificant. That's a horrific number, no question. It's sad since the Surface RT is a better value than the iPad at the same price point but Apple hasn't had any trouble moving iPads.

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                                          Thanks for giving me permission to have my opinion! :laugh: It simply means many, many people haven't tried it. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the OS. Windows Phone hasn't exactly sold well (yet) either but it's a beautiful OS that works very well and has some phenomenal devices running it. I asked for your reasoning in calling Windows RT "idiotic" (something you didn't answer, by the way). I'm not arguing that a $900M loss is insignificant. That's a horrific number, no question. It's sad since the Surface RT is a better value than the iPad at the same price point but Apple hasn't had any trouble moving iPads.

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                                          Marc A. Brown wrote:

                                          Thanks for giving me permission to have my opinion!

                                          It wasn't permission, rather acknowledgement.

                                          Marc A. Brown wrote:

                                          It simply means many, many people haven't tried it.

                                          Agreed. That's because most people have done the research and don't like Windows 8, so they don't want a tablet with that crappy OS on it.

                                          Marc A. Brown wrote:

                                          It simply means many, many people haven't tried it. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the OS. Windows Phone hasn't exactly sold well (yet) either but it's a beautiful OS that works very well and has some phenomenal devices running it.

                                          I have Windows phone, and I don't have any problem with the tiled approach on the phone. Using that same look in Windows, and VS 2012, and other apps & devives is terrible. I utterly HATE the look of VS2012. Flat black & white, all square. And most people I've talked to agree. It's too blah! From a technical standpoint Win u8 is WAY too restrictive. There's so much you CAN'T do that it make is nearly impossible to work with, other than in a cloud environment.

                                          Marc A. Brown wrote:

                                          I asked for your reasoning in calling Windows RT "idiotic"

                                          I worked at Sony when it first came out. OEM's typically get first crack at new OS's & such. I can't remember anyone there at any level who didn't dislike it. And like I said, from a simple asthetic standpoint... who designed this?? A room full of children? I have contracts with 6 companies, and none of them will make the change to Win 8. Win Server 2012 maybe, but not Win 8 - WAY too unproductive. It's clear MS learned NOTHING from the Vista fiasco.

                                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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