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  • L Lost User

    It's impossible for everyone of us who isn't working on an open-source project. Banks aren't an exception here. The sourcecode isn't part of the "banking secret", is it?

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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    vonb
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    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    The sourcecode isn't part of the "banking secret", is it?

    For the applications I am working on it mostly is: some contains the cryptographic parts (not the entire key, but part of it), and other "critical internal work flow / document flow" info. If that goes out then.. the guy whoe sent it out will have some big trouble. It's a kind of insider knowledge.

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    • V Vasily Tserekh

      Hi folks, Hi bots, Hi people that live here. I have a little question, can I place the articles written on codeproject as a part of my resumee or not. HAve you ever did something like that? best regards

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      RJOberg
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      Absolutely! While not something from CP, I have two publications that my name is listed as an author in my CV with links. Plus notable awards I might have earned. If you are going to add anything, make sure it is something you are proud of and relevant to the job which you are applying. I tailor my CV for each job i apply for, removing things that may not be important. As others have said, make sure if you link your article, you haven't posted any other comments you wouldn't want a potential employer seeing. It is akin to an employer search for your Facebook profile, which they will do. If you list awards, do NOT list the fact you lettered in and were captain of a sports team in middle school. One of the resumes we received was at least a dozen pages long and had that listed as a past leadership position.

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      • G Gregory Gadow

        Keep in mind that your CP user name will be attached to all of the articles you've written. That user name will also be attached to every forum post and comment you've made. If you are will be using your contributions to Code Project for your resume, make ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that you never, ever post anything that you would not want the Human Resources department of your dream employer to read.

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        Nicholas Marty
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        In that case it might make sense to publish those articles on your own website :)

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        • G Gregory Gadow

          Keep in mind that your CP user name will be attached to all of the articles you've written. That user name will also be attached to every forum post and comment you've made. If you are will be using your contributions to Code Project for your resume, make ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that you never, ever post anything that you would not want the Human Resources department of your dream employer to read.

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          lewax00
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          Gregory.Gadow wrote:

          make ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that you never, ever post anything that you would not want the Human Resources department of your dream employer to read.

          Guess the answer is "no" then, he should not. :laugh:

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          • V vonb

            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

            The sourcecode isn't part of the "banking secret", is it?

            For the applications I am working on it mostly is: some contains the cryptographic parts (not the entire key, but part of it), and other "critical internal work flow / document flow" info. If that goes out then.. the guy whoe sent it out will have some big trouble. It's a kind of insider knowledge.

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            Forogar
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            I used to work for someone (I can't tell you who) where my security clearance level needed a security clearance on almost the same level to even know what level it was. Needless to say, back then, if I wrote a cheque, never mind any code, it was classified! Today I work for the medical profession and the security is almost as tight but there is only one level of security, the "don't tell anyone anything" level!

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            • V Vasily Tserekh

              Hi folks, Hi bots, Hi people that live here. I have a little question, can I place the articles written on codeproject as a part of my resumee or not. HAve you ever did something like that? best regards

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              Nish Nishant
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              Why would you even need to ask this? Obviously if you have over 20 articles, it may make more sense to just link to your article listing URL or perhaps list the most recent 5 and then link to the listing URL.

              Regards, Nish


              Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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              • M Marc A Brown

                Glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this! :laugh:

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                Nish Nishant
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                Marc A. Brown wrote:

                Glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this! :laugh:

                Wow, so you got lucky that you somehow managed to be reading this during that rare time of the week when you are sober! ;P

                Regards, Nish


                Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                • F Forogar

                  I used to work for someone (I can't tell you who) where my security clearance level needed a security clearance on almost the same level to even know what level it was. Needless to say, back then, if I wrote a cheque, never mind any code, it was classified! Today I work for the medical profession and the security is almost as tight but there is only one level of security, the "don't tell anyone anything" level!

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  H Brydon
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                  The two rules for this kind of thing: (1) Don't tell everyone what you know or even that you know something [you broke rule #1]

                  -- Harvey

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                  • F Forogar

                    I used to work for someone (I can't tell you who) where my security clearance level needed a security clearance on almost the same level to even know what level it was. Needless to say, back then, if I wrote a cheque, never mind any code, it was classified! Today I work for the medical profession and the security is almost as tight but there is only one level of security, the "don't tell anyone anything" level!

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    vonb
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                    Forogar wrote:

                    I can't tell you who

                    Can I guess? NSA?? :)

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                    • F Forogar

                      I used to work for someone (I can't tell you who) where my security clearance level needed a security clearance on almost the same level to even know what level it was. Needless to say, back then, if I wrote a cheque, never mind any code, it was classified! Today I work for the medical profession and the security is almost as tight but there is only one level of security, the "don't tell anyone anything" level!

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      Lost User
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                      Ok I get the need for security clearances and all, but

                      Forogar wrote:

                      my security clearance level needed a security clearance on almost the same level to even know what level it was

                      isn't that a little silly?

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                      • L Lost User

                        Ok I get the need for security clearances and all, but

                        Forogar wrote:

                        my security clearance level needed a security clearance on almost the same level to even know what level it was

                        isn't that a little silly?

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                        Matthew Faithfull
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                        I met a guy once who couldn't ever tell anyone what he had been doing because there was no one left alive with the security clearance for him to be able to ask them if it was OK to talk about it now or not. :wtf:

                        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                        • V Vasily Tserekh

                          Yes but do the interviewers really care about that?

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                          Chris Maunder
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                          Yes, and if they don't then get a job elsewhere. Coding is done by people who want a paycheck and by people who love coding. Sometimes both. Writing an article says that you care about coding, you're proud of what you do, and you're confident in your skills and open to review, criticism and looking to constantly improve. It says you're good and you want to get even better. Show off your articles in you resume and make sure your potentially employer is someone who also cares about software development.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          • M Matthew Faithfull

                            I met a guy once who couldn't ever tell anyone what he had been doing because there was no one left alive with the security clearance for him to be able to ask them if it was OK to talk about it now or not. :wtf:

                            "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                            H Brydon
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                            ... at least that's what he told you.

                            -- Harvey

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                            • M Matthew Faithfull

                              I met a guy once who couldn't ever tell anyone what he had been doing because there was no one left alive with the security clearance for him to be able to ask them if it was OK to talk about it now or not. :wtf:

                              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                              Forogar
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                              Is that because he killed them all?

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              • V vonb

                                Forogar wrote:

                                I can't tell you who

                                Can I guess? NSA?? :)

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                                Forogar
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                                Yes, you can guess. Not the NSA, I am British... oops, perhaps I said too much, now I will have to kill you...not that we do that anymore... I mean, not that we ever did that kind of thing.

                                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  Marc A. Brown wrote:

                                  Glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this! :laugh:

                                  Wow, so you got lucky that you somehow managed to be reading this during that rare time of the week when you are sober! ;P

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                  Marc A Brown
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                                  Yeah, right. :)

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Ok I get the need for security clearances and all, but

                                    Forogar wrote:

                                    my security clearance level needed a security clearance on almost the same level to even know what level it was

                                    isn't that a little silly?

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                                    Forogar
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                                    You think that is silly... Within the first six months on the job I wrote report on something and it was classified. I wanted to update it a little later but was not cleared to read it - even though I wrote it! I had to wait for my positive vetting process to complete, which increased my clearance enough for me to read (and update) the report I wrote.

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    • F Forogar

                                      Yes, you can guess. Not the NSA, I am British... oops, perhaps I said too much, now I will have to kill you...not that we do that anymore... I mean, not that we ever did that kind of thing.

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      vonb
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                                      Forogar wrote:

                                      Not the NSA, I am British

                                      OK, now I know. Wont cite it: collegue from James Bond then?

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                                      • V vonb

                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        The sourcecode isn't part of the "banking secret", is it?

                                        For the applications I am working on it mostly is: some contains the cryptographic parts (not the entire key, but part of it), and other "critical internal work flow / document flow" info. If that goes out then.. the guy whoe sent it out will have some big trouble. It's a kind of insider knowledge.

                                        The signature is in building process.. Please wait...

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                                        Lost User
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                                        vonb wrote:

                                        If that goes out then.. the guy whoe sent it out will have some big trouble.

                                        Again, that goes for most shops. Imagine your entire medical history on the street - with some famous ambassadors on that list - would amount to big trouble too. The reason I'm hammering on it is because a bank is not more special than, say, a pension fund, a hospital or a nuclear plant. The only thing that makes it "special" is the attitude that says "wee bee special".

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                        • V vonb

                                          Forogar wrote:

                                          Not the NSA, I am British

                                          OK, now I know. Wont cite it: collegue from James Bond then?

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                                          Forogar
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                                          All I will say is that my employee number ended in "...0007". Actually this is true, is was a running joke. I was "Triple-oh-seven".

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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