Intelligent people are less likely to be religious
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I'm not, but some statisticians claim there is a possibility. Personally I'd like to see the correlation between intelligence and politicians.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Did not think you were. Just being funny and failing. A politician must have some to keep all the lies straight. ;)
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Yes, and the answer, ironically enough, is in the Bible. 2 Timothy 3:7, "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." Intelligent people are less humble and being humble is one of the requirements for following the spiritual process to discover God. Rich people are also less likely to believe in God for the same exact reason. Also, the Bible said, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into the kingdom of heaven. The eye of the needle is not literal but refers to the doorways to the city where the camels had to kneel down to get through. Basically, any group of people (rich, intelligent, etc, etc) that are not humble will show the same results.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
ryanb31 wrote:
Rich people are also less likely to believe in God for the same exact reason.
I read somewhere that there's an overrepresentation of believers within people running their own company, maybe they're mostly poor.
ryanb31 wrote:
The eye of the needle is not literal but refers to the doorways to the city where the camels had to kneel down to get through.
Interesting info. There are quite some expressions in the bible that I wonder about.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Did not think you were. Just being funny and failing. A politician must have some to keep all the lies straight. ;)
In the parliament building in Sweden has a contraption on the incoming water pipes that "demagnetizes" and "whirls" the water to make it more "healthy". All because two politicians demanded it. The caretaker couldn't be bothered to fight with them, so he called the press instead. I just wonder what kind of new age religion they worshipped?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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In the parliament building in Sweden has a contraption on the incoming water pipes that "demagnetizes" and "whirls" the water to make it more "healthy". All because two politicians demanded it. The caretaker couldn't be bothered to fight with them, so he called the press instead. I just wonder what kind of new age religion they worshipped?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
In the USA the needs of the vocal one out weigh the needs of the silent many.
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Yes, and the answer, ironically enough, is in the Bible. 2 Timothy 3:7, "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." Intelligent people are less humble and being humble is one of the requirements for following the spiritual process to discover God. Rich people are also less likely to believe in God for the same exact reason. Also, the Bible said, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into the kingdom of heaven. The eye of the needle is not literal but refers to the doorways to the city where the camels had to kneel down to get through. Basically, any group of people (rich, intelligent, etc, etc) that are not humble will show the same results.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
ryanb31 wrote:
Basically, any group of people (rich, intelligent, etc, etc) that are not humble will show the same results.
The word you are looking for is 'arrogant'. Rather certain that you would be hard pressed to prove that intelligent people are significantly more arrogant that those that are less intelligent. And I suspect showing the same for wealth might take some doing. For example I would suspect there are many people in the US that are in fact very wealthy compared to other regions of the world but would not consider themselves "rich" at all. And certainly there are people in poor regions of the world that are very poor compared to average citizens in the US but for their area they are "rich". And perhaps arrogant.
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ryanb31 wrote:
Basically, any group of people (rich, intelligent, etc, etc) that are not humble will show the same results.
The word you are looking for is 'arrogant'. Rather certain that you would be hard pressed to prove that intelligent people are significantly more arrogant that those that are less intelligent. And I suspect showing the same for wealth might take some doing. For example I would suspect there are many people in the US that are in fact very wealthy compared to other regions of the world but would not consider themselves "rich" at all. And certainly there are people in poor regions of the world that are very poor compared to average citizens in the US but for their area they are "rich". And perhaps arrogant.
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The word you are looking for is 'arrogant'.
Arrogant, prideful, not humble, stiffnecked, whatever. The specific word is not important.
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Rather certain that you would be hard pressed to prove that intelligent people are significantly more arrogant that those that are less intelligent.
Perhaps you do not personally know any intelligent people. Just my experience alone confirms what I have said let alone the studies that have been done.
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For example I would suspect there are many people in the US that are in fact very wealthy compared to other regions of the world
Yes, wealth is relative. Those that are poor in the US tend to be more humble than those that are rich in the US, but a totally unlrelated topic is your point that the poor in the US are still wealthier than some of the rich in other countries. This is a generalization. There are always exceptions.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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The word you are looking for is 'arrogant'.
Arrogant, prideful, not humble, stiffnecked, whatever. The specific word is not important.
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Rather certain that you would be hard pressed to prove that intelligent people are significantly more arrogant that those that are less intelligent.
Perhaps you do not personally know any intelligent people. Just my experience alone confirms what I have said let alone the studies that have been done.
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For example I would suspect there are many people in the US that are in fact very wealthy compared to other regions of the world
Yes, wealth is relative. Those that are poor in the US tend to be more humble than those that are rich in the US, but a totally unlrelated topic is your point that the poor in the US are still wealthier than some of the rich in other countries. This is a generalization. There are always exceptions.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
ryanb31 wrote:
Perhaps you do not personally know any intelligent people.
Perhaps you do not personally know anyone whose intelligence is less than average. And given the fuzzy nature of "intelligence" perhaps you do not know anyone who is ignorant.
ryanb31 wrote:
Those that are poor in the US tend to be more humble than those that are rich in the US
As per your other statement perhaps you do not in fact know anyone that is poor. Or your only contact is via some setting in which only those that are humble are likely to participate. Or perhaps your definition of poor and thus how you categorize them is different than the actual measured statistics.
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ryanb31 wrote:
Perhaps you do not personally know any intelligent people.
Perhaps you do not personally know anyone whose intelligence is less than average. And given the fuzzy nature of "intelligence" perhaps you do not know anyone who is ignorant.
ryanb31 wrote:
Those that are poor in the US tend to be more humble than those that are rich in the US
As per your other statement perhaps you do not in fact know anyone that is poor. Or your only contact is via some setting in which only those that are humble are likely to participate. Or perhaps your definition of poor and thus how you categorize them is different than the actual measured statistics.
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The word you are looking for is 'arrogant'.
Arrogant, prideful, not humble, stiffnecked, whatever. The specific word is not important.
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Rather certain that you would be hard pressed to prove that intelligent people are significantly more arrogant that those that are less intelligent.
Perhaps you do not personally know any intelligent people. Just my experience alone confirms what I have said let alone the studies that have been done.
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For example I would suspect there are many people in the US that are in fact very wealthy compared to other regions of the world
Yes, wealth is relative. Those that are poor in the US tend to be more humble than those that are rich in the US, but a totally unlrelated topic is your point that the poor in the US are still wealthier than some of the rich in other countries. This is a generalization. There are always exceptions.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
ryanb31 wrote:
Those that are poor in the US tend to be more humble than those that are rich in the US
What I have seen is the "poor" in the USA seem to want demand everything. Example: They can get free cell phones with more minutes than I pay for. I know this is just the vocal poor, unfortunately, giving the hard working poor a bad name.
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ryanb31 wrote:
Those that are poor in the US tend to be more humble than those that are rich in the US
What I have seen is the "poor" in the USA seem to want demand everything. Example: They can get free cell phones with more minutes than I pay for. I know this is just the vocal poor, unfortunately, giving the hard working poor a bad name.
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Good point. In fact, I still haven't gotten my Obama phone. :((
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Why do people believe a cell phone is a must? Heck when I was a kid we had party lines! (One phone to a house multiple houses to a line).
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Why do people believe a cell phone is a must? Heck when I was a kid we had party lines! (One phone to a house multiple houses to a line).
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Why do people believe a cell phone is a must?
Wow. Someone who agrees with me. How rare. :) I've actually discussed this on CP and most people seem to think they are a necessity. I don't have one and get along fine. I'll get one when I need one.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Well, according to statistics[^] anyway. Let the flame war begin. :) Or maybe not considering how many people that seem to frequent this forum nowadays.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Let the flame war begin. :)
And so it began. Although I would agree with it is mostly because of the true meaning of religious: A person bound by monastic vows Then Lastly and Most importantly the website you referenced -> This content was removed at the request of SAGE Publications :laugh: :rolleyes:
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Yes, and the answer, ironically enough, is in the Bible. 2 Timothy 3:7, "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." Intelligent people are less humble and being humble is one of the requirements for following the spiritual process to discover God. Rich people are also less likely to believe in God for the same exact reason. Also, the Bible said, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into the kingdom of heaven. The eye of the needle is not literal but refers to the doorways to the city where the camels had to kneel down to get through. Basically, any group of people (rich, intelligent, etc, etc) that are not humble will show the same results.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
ryanb31 wrote:
ut refers to the doorways to the city where the camels had to kneel down to get through.
Although widely reported, this appears to not actually have any basis in fact.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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ryanb31 wrote:
ut refers to the doorways to the city where the camels had to kneel down to get through.
Although widely reported, this appears to not actually have any basis in fact.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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ryanb31 wrote:
Rich people are also less likely to believe in God for the same exact reason.
I read somewhere that there's an overrepresentation of believers within people running their own company, maybe they're mostly poor.
ryanb31 wrote:
The eye of the needle is not literal but refers to the doorways to the city where the camels had to kneel down to get through.
Interesting info. There are quite some expressions in the bible that I wonder about.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Interesting info. There are quite some expressions in the bible that I wonder about.
If you are referring to the 'eye of the needle' it was actually the small door to the side of the main gate that was always open, when the main gate was closed for defense (night time). For a merchant to enter the 'eye of the needle', he had to unload his camels, carry every package through the wall one by one, and then pull the camel on its knees through the eye while someone behind the camel beat it with a stick to keep it moving. Edit: I've found that many things I don't understand in the Bible actually have very understandable explanations... and are quite amazing if you dig deep enough.