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  • J Jason Henderson

    http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5921220%5E663,00.html[^] I don't understand why they let this leak to the press because Saddam will just move everything.

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    Possibly because its not true ? I wouldn't trust this bodyguard who looked after Saddam any more than I would trust Saddam. Too many peole have an interest in planting information and if the Iraqis do try and clear out places as full as these would be then there will be evidence. The tigress is here :-D

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    • J Jason Henderson

      http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5921220%5E663,00.html[^] I don't understand why they let this leak to the press because Saddam will just move everything.

      Jason Henderson
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      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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      Neither can I. :confused: Maybe the fact that it's been leaked indicates they believe they've already got the evidence they need? Wait and see I guess. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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        Possibly because its not true ? I wouldn't trust this bodyguard who looked after Saddam any more than I would trust Saddam. Too many peole have an interest in planting information and if the Iraqis do try and clear out places as full as these would be then there will be evidence. The tigress is here :-D

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        Trollslayer wrote: Possibly because its not true ? Very likely, but worth a look none the less. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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        • J Jason Henderson

          http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5921220%5E663,00.html[^] I don't understand why they let this leak to the press because Saddam will just move everything.

          Jason Henderson
          "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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          The Herald Sun is like an Aussie version of The National Inquirer. You can't believe everything you read.

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            The Herald Sun is like an Aussie version of The National Inquirer. You can't believe everything you read.

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            Ed Gadziemski wrote: The Herald Sun is like an Aussie version of The National Inquirer. You can't believe everything you read. All of this is moot. Those who believe Saddam has WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not. Those who believe Saddam does not have WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not. Even if they are found, this type will just fall back on "But who says he is going to actually use them?" Everyone going to war is already in, the rest are not going to come in.

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              Ed Gadziemski wrote: The Herald Sun is like an Aussie version of The National Inquirer. You can't believe everything you read. All of this is moot. Those who believe Saddam has WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not. Those who believe Saddam does not have WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not. Even if they are found, this type will just fall back on "But who says he is going to actually use them?" Everyone going to war is already in, the rest are not going to come in.

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              Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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              Paul Watson wrote: Even if they are found, this type will just fall back on "But who says he is going to actually use them?" Or just claim that the evidence is obviously faked, and give a load of half baked arguments good enough to convince the average stupid person (think moon landings hoax) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                Ed Gadziemski wrote: The Herald Sun is like an Aussie version of The National Inquirer. You can't believe everything you read. All of this is moot. Those who believe Saddam has WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not. Those who believe Saddam does not have WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not. Even if they are found, this type will just fall back on "But who says he is going to actually use them?" Everyone going to war is already in, the rest are not going to come in.

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                Paul Watson wrote: Those who believe Saddam has WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not. Those who believe Saddam does not have WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not it reminds me of a grafitti, on a wall (approximative translation): I do or I don't know, but I don't believe


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                  Paul Watson wrote: Even if they are found, this type will just fall back on "But who says he is going to actually use them?" Or just claim that the evidence is obviously faked, and give a load of half baked arguments good enough to convince the average stupid person (think moon landings hoax) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                  benjymous wrote: (think moon landings hoax) Oh exactly! I mean really, who do the Illuminati living in the old Spanish so called "inquisition" buildings think they are fooling. Anyone with half a brain can see through the sham of "American culture", no nation can be that fake, so obviously it is not real. And if America is not real then the moon landings are not real. And neither is Russia real because they cannot exist without America.

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                    Paul Watson wrote: Even if they are found, this type will just fall back on "But who says he is going to actually use them?" Or just claim that the evidence is obviously faked, and give a load of half baked arguments good enough to convince the average stupid person (think moon landings hoax) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                    What is for you a stupid person ? :confused:


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                      What is for you a stupid person ? :confused:


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                      KaЯl wrote: What is for you a stupid person ? Well, in this case the kind of person who'd read a rubbishy newspaper like that and believe it word for word -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                        benjymous wrote: (think moon landings hoax) Oh exactly! I mean really, who do the Illuminati living in the old Spanish so called "inquisition" buildings think they are fooling. Anyone with half a brain can see through the sham of "American culture", no nation can be that fake, so obviously it is not real. And if America is not real then the moon landings are not real. And neither is Russia real because they cannot exist without America.

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                        Damn you Paul! You stole my thunder. When I saw benjymous' comments I immediately recalled a conversation with a *cough* relative. I had read the Illuminati's trilogy which is a wonderfully funny spoof on all of the conspiracy theories and advised this person to read it. The funny thing is he was convinced it was an account of actual events and events to come. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

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                          Damn you Paul! You stole my thunder. When I saw benjymous' comments I immediately recalled a conversation with a *cough* relative. I had read the Illuminati's trilogy which is a wonderfully funny spoof on all of the conspiracy theories and advised this person to read it. The funny thing is he was convinced it was an account of actual events and events to come. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

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                          Chris Austin wrote: The funny thing is he was convinced it was an account of actual events and events to come. Tell your *cough* relative *cough* that in fact the white man never landed in Africa and that the black man very cleverly made up the whole rape and pilage of Africa by the white man to get free aid and sympathy. I mean really, what better story to get a free meal ticket than that? :rolleyes: Chris Austin wrote: I had read the Illuminati's trilogy which is a wonderfully funny spoof on all of the conspiracy theories and advised this person to read it I have not read it, worth getting a hold of?

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                            Chris Austin wrote: The funny thing is he was convinced it was an account of actual events and events to come. Tell your *cough* relative *cough* that in fact the white man never landed in Africa and that the black man very cleverly made up the whole rape and pilage of Africa by the white man to get free aid and sympathy. I mean really, what better story to get a free meal ticket than that? :rolleyes: Chris Austin wrote: I had read the Illuminati's trilogy which is a wonderfully funny spoof on all of the conspiracy theories and advised this person to read it I have not read it, worth getting a hold of?

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                            Paul Watson wrote: Tell your *cough* relative *cough* that in fact the white man never landed in Africa and that the black man very cleverly made up the whole rape and pilage of Africa by the white man to get free aid and sympathy. I mean really, what better story to get a free meal ticket than that? If he wasn't a Cherokee I’d almost guarantee that he’d believe it. Paul Watson wrote: I have not read it, worth getting a hold of? Not sure...it is a very "odd" story that borders on the absurd at times but it is also hilarious at times. Certainly one of the most unique books I have ever read. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

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                              KaЯl wrote: What is for you a stupid person ? Well, in this case the kind of person who'd read a rubbishy newspaper like that and believe it word for word -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                              I hope you're not calling me stupid, since my knowledge of that newspaper is minimal. :confused:

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                                KaЯl wrote: What is for you a stupid person ? Well, in this case the kind of person who'd read a rubbishy newspaper like that and believe it word for word -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                                So, "under-educated" people are stupid ? :~ Nothing personal there, just taking the opportunity I see the adjective stupid a lot in these days in the forums. I'm affraid it could be the expression of a complex of superiority over other workers, particularly manual workers. Too many believe diplomas make intelligence.


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                                  I hope you're not calling me stupid, since my knowledge of that newspaper is minimal. :confused:

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                                  :laugh: No, quite the opposite We're talking about the kind of newspaper that'd happily print "Elvis is alive and works in Wal-Mart" stories, and, sadly, there are plenty of people out there who'd read it and believe it must be true because it's in a newspaper -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                                    Paul Watson wrote: Those who believe Saddam has WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not. Those who believe Saddam does not have WMDs will continue to believe it, proof or not it reminds me of a grafitti, on a wall (approximative translation): I do or I don't know, but I don't believe


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                                    Cogito ergo suum (cogito...) Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                                      Cogito ergo suum (cogito...) Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                                      I really like this sentence: the base, the indisputable thruth, the stone on which the house will be built :rolleyes: Another one I like in the same area, from Descartes competitor, Blaise Pascal: Man is no more than a reed, the weakest in nature. But he is a thinking reed


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                                        I really like this sentence: the base, the indisputable thruth, the stone on which the house will be built :rolleyes: Another one I like in the same area, from Descartes competitor, Blaise Pascal: Man is no more than a reed, the weakest in nature. But he is a thinking reed


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                                        KaЯl wrote: Man is no more than a reed, the weakest in nature. But he is a thinking reed I like!:-D Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                                          So, "under-educated" people are stupid ? :~ Nothing personal there, just taking the opportunity I see the adjective stupid a lot in these days in the forums. I'm affraid it could be the expression of a complex of superiority over other workers, particularly manual workers. Too many believe diplomas make intelligence.


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                                          Yeah, I hate it when people of higher education call manual laborers stupid because they are not of the same education level. When I call somebody stupid, I am usually referring to either their maturity level (which is really a slang use of stupid) or lack of common sense. Just because you have a college degree doesn't mean you're not stupid (hence the term educated idiot). Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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