Colin Powell And The Evidence

peterchen

Paul Watson wrote: and adds no weight to the pro-war people The pro-warers will now claim they did everything to please the tree-hugging liberals, "we even presented serious and undeniable proof what else do you want? A chemical warhead coming through your window wich is signed 'Love, Saddam'?", and go on pro-waring, and loathing treehugging liberals. :mad:

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peterchen

[Conspiracy 101] maybe a weapon the US wants to "field test" isn't ready yet [/Conspiracy 101]

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Jason Henderson

I don't understand why our intel community isn't telling the inspectors where to go. If there are secret bunkers, give them the location. Do the inspectors have to get permission from Iraq first?

Jason Henderson
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Felix Gartsman

Jason Henderson wrote: Do the inspectors have to get permission from Iraq first? No. But as UK report showed Iraqis spy after them and know everything. And this is not counting inspectors working for Iraq.

Chris Losinger

i just realized that "Colin Powell And The Evidence" would make a stellar band name. =c

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Chris Meech

I'd shorten it to just "The Evidence". Or maybe "The Evidence is Clear". As long as they don't do hip-hop, I'll be happy. ;P Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! Those leaks are driving me crazy! How does one finds a memory leak in a garbage collected environment ??! Daniel Turini Nov. 2, 2002.

Jason Henderson

The whole point of Resolution 1441 (or whatever it was) was that Iraq would be punished if they did not fully cooperate with UN inspectors. Both Powell and Blix have now testified to that fact. If you don't believe Powell, then believe Blix! What more do you want? What more would you need? Here's a good editorial[^] on the whole thing. You might like this one[^] better though.

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Brian Delahunty

peterchen wrote: [Conspiracy 101] maybe a weapon the US wants to "field test" isn't ready yet [/Conspiracy 101] :~ peterchen :~ You were told not to reveal that information. :wtf: Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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KaRl

Question: "I am a country, ruled by a dictator and a unique party. Opponents to my government are jailed or eliminated. I invade a neighbor country, and an international coalition led by the US was needed to oust me. I have chemical and bacteriological weapons, and missiles to carry them. I have also a nuclear bombs program. Corrupted, my leaders divert the international assistance originally targeted to help the starving people. I am also cooperating with countries sponsoring terrorist groups. I am...." Answer: North Korea

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Jason Henderson

...and Iraq.

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Maximilien

Jason Henderson wrote: You might like this one[^] better though. Ms. Reno's publicist later indicated that the medications would soon be in balance. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Max.

KaRl

and Iraq, maybe About NK, all I said are proven facts.

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ColinDavies

Chris Losinger wrote: Colin Powell And The Evidence I think that would be a top name !! Regardz Colin J Davies

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I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

Chris Losinger

Jason Henderson wrote: What more do you want? What more would you need? proof that there is a clear threat to the US. i'm not a big fan of letting the US police the world. i don't think it's our responsibility, our duty or in our long term best interests. Iraq/Al-Q claims are ridiculous. if we actually knew there were Al-Q camps in the northern part of Iraq (where Saddam isn't in control and where the UN/US already controls the sky), we would've bombed them 100x by now. we invaded Afghanistan in a heartbeat, because of AlQ camps. the satellite pictures are a bit strange too. since they were dated 11/02, we've had at least two months to tell the inspectors where to look. why didn't we? nothing would seal the deal like real evidence - inspectors on the ground, standing in front of missiles. the phone call does sound bad, i'll admit. but, in keeping with my first point, i don't think it's the US's job. if it's a UN issue let the UN handle it. yes, i think the US can and should act to support the UN, but only as part of the UN. what GWB is doing now is using the UN as an excuse to do what he's always wanted to do, since before 9/11. if the UN doesn't want to act, then so be it. i'm not a fan of putting the Made In the USA label on another invasion of another country in a part of the world that already sees the US as the cause of all evil. like it or not, the US is not invincible, invulnerable or impregnable - and encouraging the kind of behavior that we are most susceptible to is plain idiocy, in my book. but, you already knew all that.

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

Jason Henderson wrote: You might like this one[^] better though. :laugh: -- "It is amazing how f-ing crazy I really am."

Lost User

KaЯl wrote: "I am a country, ruled by a dictator and a unique party. Opponents to my government are jailed or eliminated. I invade a neighbor country, and an international coalition led by the US was needed to oust me. I have chemical and bacteriological weapons, and missiles to carry them. I have also a nuclear bombs program. Corrupted, my leaders divert the international assistance originally targeted to help the starving people. I am also cooperating with countries sponsoring terrorist groups. I am...." Answer: North Korea Leaving the US out of the discussion for now, why isn't the UN doing anything about NK. Why isn't China or Russia or Japan or Australia going absolutely beserk about NK? Why aren't France and Germany calling for a UN resolution? Why does the UN sit idle while a psycho arms himself to the hilt? Why? What purpose does the UN serve if not for cases like NK? Mike Mullikin :beer:

I'm not convinced that oil is the problem. I'm pretty sure we could fly over the Middle East and drop bags of money and they'd still want to kill us for blocking the view. - Scott Adams

ColinDavies

Yeah, But the US doesn't need two simulateous battles on its hands. After Iraq it must definitly go after NK. This should have been solved 50 yrs ago. When this KIM chap gets his Nukes operational, he is going to be blackmailing the rest of the world for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if they start planting portable devices in Western Cities and then make demands for money and resources etc. Regardz Colin J Davies

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I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

Lost User

Colin Davies wrote: After Iraq it must definitly go after NK. Here's a novel idea. While the US/UK deals with Iraq, the remainder of the UN can deal with NK. It's time for the "rest of the world" to put its money where its mouth is. We all agree that the US should not be the world's policeman. I'd really like to see a concerted effort on the part of the UN (minus the US/UK) to bring a rogue nation (NK) in line. Frankly, I don't think they have the stomach for it. Mike Mullikin :beer:

I'm not convinced that oil is the problem. I'm pretty sure we could fly over the Middle East and drop bags of money and they'd still want to kill us for blocking the view. - Scott Adams

ColinDavies

Mike Mullikin wrote: We all agree that the US should not be the world's policeman. No not "WE", I don't. The rest of the world as in UN couldn't organise a pissup in a brewary. IF NK does go wild with their threats the USA has probably the most to lose. Unsure if you saw the links to the recent POster campaign in NK, but they were basically Anti-US more then simply Anti-Western or Anti-Capitalism. For what ever reason the truth is the US is percieved to be the oppressor by a few countries regimes around the world. So the US will be the ones left to deal with this. Sure the rest of the world should take some responsibility, but as we both know they won't. I really think leaving NK unchecked is of far greater risk than Iraq though. Regardz Colin J Davies

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I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

Paul Watson

Jason Henderson wrote: The whole point of Resolution 1441 (or whatever it was) was that Iraq would be punished if they did not fully cooperate with UN inspectors. Both Powell and Blix have now testified to that fact. If you don't believe Powell, then believe Blix! What more do you want? What more would you need? Jason, that is not what I was bitching about. I was bitching that this hugely overhyped security council meeting with Colin Powell and The Evidence was worthless. It has not convinced anyone of anything. It was just another uneeded spouting of which even your own countrymen are getting sick of (Chris for instance.) Saddam is a lunatic. He has WMDs. I do not know if he will use them, but the chances are good enough that something has to be done. I don't think war is the way. I am glad at least someone (the US) is trying to do something about it. Would be nice if the US's determination spurred on the UN to doing it's job properly. I do not need more proof to make me realise something must be done. But what Powell presented was not proof, it was weak. Bottom line: The US is going to war. Saddam will fall. Colin Powell and The Evidence was worthless and just waste of time and bandwidth.

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