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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    Beyond the fact it is in Africa and the capital is Nairobi, I know nothing of this land. There is a chance we may be off there with Mrs wife's job and I was wondering [that's with an O] if anyone knows anything about it, especially the IT industry. 0. I am going to meet someone at the High Commission next week to find out more, but I would like to be a bit better prepared. 1. Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

    speramus in juniperus

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    Wayne Gaylard
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    As far as software development goes - there is none. Seriously, the only IT jobs you might find are support roles for stuff like Sage, Pastel or Microsoft Dynamics, or hardware related stuff - networking etc. You also have to compete with highly qualified locals who will work for a third / quarter of what you would even consider barely acceptable. Sorry to pour cold water on your enthusiasm.

    When I was a coder, we worked on algorithms. Today, we memorize APIs for countless libraries — those libraries have the algorithms - Eric Allman

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      As far as software development goes - there is none. Seriously, the only IT jobs you might find are support roles for stuff like Sage, Pastel or Microsoft Dynamics, or hardware related stuff - networking etc. You also have to compete with highly qualified locals who will work for a third / quarter of what you would even consider barely acceptable. Sorry to pour cold water on your enthusiasm.

      When I was a coder, we worked on algorithms. Today, we memorize APIs for countless libraries — those libraries have the algorithms - Eric Allman

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      So it's back to drinking copious amounts of gin then. Oh well... :-D

      speramus in juniperus

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        So it's back to drinking copious amounts of gin then. Oh well... :-D

        speramus in juniperus

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        Wayne Gaylard
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        Come to Zimbabwe and I am sure I could find you something more useful. But then, you would have to be drastically more Gin soddled than yourself to even think about coming here. :laugh:

        When I was a coder, we worked on algorithms. Today, we memorize APIs for countless libraries — those libraries have the algorithms - Eric Allman

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          Beyond the fact it is in Africa and the capital is Nairobi, I know nothing of this land. There is a chance we may be off there with Mrs wife's job and I was wondering [that's with an O] if anyone knows anything about it, especially the IT industry. 0. I am going to meet someone at the High Commission next week to find out more, but I would like to be a bit better prepared. 1. Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

          speramus in juniperus

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          Garth J Lancaster
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          Jambo, Habari ? (Swahili for hello, how are you ?) I lived there for two years, hmmm, 74-75 iirc - I was 8, 9 y.o. At that stage my dad was teaching the Kenyans how to run a power station by computer - up until some years ago we still had some friends there. As far as I know, once they gleaned the knowledge from the whites, coupled with a major change in what was being done in the country when President Jomo Kenyatta died, they kicked out all the whites - It would be interesting if there was major software development going on there, but I doubt it - major industry these days is coffee, tourism 'g'

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Beyond the fact it is in Africa and the capital is Nairobi, I know nothing of this land. There is a chance we may be off there with Mrs wife's job and I was wondering [that's with an O] if anyone knows anything about it, especially the IT industry. 0. I am going to meet someone at the High Commission next week to find out more, but I would like to be a bit better prepared. 1. Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

            speramus in juniperus

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            JimmyRopes
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            I don't want to be pessimistic but can you spell Westgate[^]? If I am not mistaken you are Christian. There may be more Christian-Muslim violence[^] in the future. Since you will be going with your family be sure to question where you will be living and the security provided, both at work and at home. Aside from these recent developments Eastern Africa is a wonderful place to explore. I never got to the islands off the coast of Kenya but people on Zanzabar Island (off the coast of Tanzania) recommended Pemba and Lamu Island highly. As I said before I don't want to be pessimistic but at least go into it with up to date information about security and safety for your family.

            The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              Beyond the fact it is in Africa and the capital is Nairobi, I know nothing of this land. There is a chance we may be off there with Mrs wife's job and I was wondering [that's with an O] if anyone knows anything about it, especially the IT industry. 0. I am going to meet someone at the High Commission next week to find out more, but I would like to be a bit better prepared. 1. Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

              speramus in juniperus

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              OriginalGriff
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              They seem to need a fair amount of good computer help in Nigeria, and that's only a couple of miles away (using American Geography)

              Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                Jambo, Habari ? (Swahili for hello, how are you ?) I lived there for two years, hmmm, 74-75 iirc - I was 8, 9 y.o. At that stage my dad was teaching the Kenyans how to run a power station by computer - up until some years ago we still had some friends there. As far as I know, once they gleaned the knowledge from the whites, coupled with a major change in what was being done in the country when President Jomo Kenyatta died, they kicked out all the whites - It would be interesting if there was major software development going on there, but I doubt it - major industry these days is coffee, tourism 'g'

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                OriginalGriff
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                Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                major industry these days is coffee, tourism

                ...and terrorism...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24617763[^] :laugh:

                Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • J JimmyRopes

                  I don't want to be pessimistic but can you spell Westgate[^]? If I am not mistaken you are Christian. There may be more Christian-Muslim violence[^] in the future. Since you will be going with your family be sure to question where you will be living and the security provided, both at work and at home. Aside from these recent developments Eastern Africa is a wonderful place to explore. I never got to the islands off the coast of Kenya but people on Zanzabar Island (off the coast of Tanzania) recommended Pemba and Lamu Island highly. As I said before I don't want to be pessimistic but at least go into it with up to date information about security and safety for your family.

                  The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                  Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                  Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  The person Mrs Wife is replacing lives in a small gated and guarded compound about 1/2 a mile from work which is also secure, we would take over that house. There is a British School close by which goes pre-school to A-Levels. The security we are well aware of, the current thinking is that you drive rather than walk and there are specific places you don't go to. We have been given a pretty good eye-opener in pre-breifings to decide of we want to go. My concern is working.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                    major industry these days is coffee, tourism

                    ...and terrorism...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24617763[^] :laugh:

                    Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                    Garth J Lancaster
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                    yeah Bizarrely enough, my sister's ex boyfriend and his new Kenyan girlfriend missed that by 2 days (am I wrong for thinking 'what a shame' ?) 'g'

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Beyond the fact it is in Africa and the capital is Nairobi, I know nothing of this land. There is a chance we may be off there with Mrs wife's job and I was wondering [that's with an O] if anyone knows anything about it, especially the IT industry. 0. I am going to meet someone at the High Commission next week to find out more, but I would like to be a bit better prepared. 1. Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

                      speramus in juniperus

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      I know that Mount Kenya is the second highest mountain in Africa. You also have the Masai Mara, so getting eaten by a lion is always on the cards. On your days off you could go looking for your ancestors in the Great Rift Valley. Fortunately the national language is English. My friend and sometime drinking and erstwhile golf buddy, Eddie, is a Kenyan. He now coaches Rugby. He says that it is still a poor country and you need to be careful. So be careful. Being a predominantly christian country, there is a ready supply of booze including Tusker[^] They play Rugby, Cricket and Whiff Whaff, so you should be ok for sport.

                      --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        They seem to need a fair amount of good computer help in Nigeria, and that's only a couple of miles away (using American Geography)

                        Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        couple of miles away

                        Only if a mile counts as two countries :-)

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          Beyond the fact it is in Africa and the capital is Nairobi, I know nothing of this land. There is a chance we may be off there with Mrs wife's job and I was wondering [that's with an O] if anyone knows anything about it, especially the IT industry. 0. I am going to meet someone at the High Commission next week to find out more, but I would like to be a bit better prepared. 1. Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

                          speramus in juniperus

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                          Septimus Hedgehog
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                          My old man spoke of Kenya with fondness. I've been there twice in the early 60s before independence. It was an exciting place for a kid. It's a beautiful country and I'm sure it still is. As long as you expect the unexpected all may go well. :)

                          If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            couple of miles away

                            Only if a mile counts as two countries :-)

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                            OriginalGriff
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                            That's American Geography for you! :laugh:

                            Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              Beyond the fact it is in Africa and the capital is Nairobi, I know nothing of this land. There is a chance we may be off there with Mrs wife's job and I was wondering [that's with an O] if anyone knows anything about it, especially the IT industry. 0. I am going to meet someone at the High Commission next week to find out more, but I would like to be a bit better prepared. 1. Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

                              speramus in juniperus

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                              Lost User
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                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              I have read what I can on Wikipedia

                              What bit's were you struggling with? Perhaps we can help?

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                Beyond the fact it is in Africa and the capital is Nairobi, I know nothing of this land. There is a chance we may be off there with Mrs wife's job and I was wondering [that's with an O] if anyone knows anything about it, especially the IT industry. 0. I am going to meet someone at the High Commission next week to find out more, but I would like to be a bit better prepared. 1. Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

                                speramus in juniperus

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

                                Then yes, the next clear choice is to come to the Lounge. Surely you'll get a wealth of information here. :)

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  I know that Mount Kenya is the second highest mountain in Africa. You also have the Masai Mara, so getting eaten by a lion is always on the cards. On your days off you could go looking for your ancestors in the Great Rift Valley. Fortunately the national language is English. My friend and sometime drinking and erstwhile golf buddy, Eddie, is a Kenyan. He now coaches Rugby. He says that it is still a poor country and you need to be careful. So be careful. Being a predominantly christian country, there is a ready supply of booze including Tusker[^] They play Rugby, Cricket and Whiff Whaff, so you should be ok for sport.

                                  --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                                  dan sh
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                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  You also have the Masai Mara, so getting eaten by a lion is always on the cards.

                                  I sincerely hope you are not one of those who believe that people have fight against wild animals while on their way to office in cities in Africa. Tusker is good.

                                  "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                    I know that Mount Kenya is the second highest mountain in Africa. You also have the Masai Mara, so getting eaten by a lion is always on the cards. On your days off you could go looking for your ancestors in the Great Rift Valley. Fortunately the national language is English. My friend and sometime drinking and erstwhile golf buddy, Eddie, is a Kenyan. He now coaches Rugby. He says that it is still a poor country and you need to be careful. So be careful. Being a predominantly christian country, there is a ready supply of booze including Tusker[^] They play Rugby, Cricket and Whiff Whaff, so you should be ok for sport.

                                    --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                                    glennPattonWork3
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                                    Tusker's ale, My Dad regales with tales of Crates of Tuskers, a Jeep called Clare & a Lanchester machine gun. Seems to hard to get in this country, while quite easy in Belgium...

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      The person Mrs Wife is replacing lives in a small gated and guarded compound about 1/2 a mile from work which is also secure, we would take over that house. There is a British School close by which goes pre-school to A-Levels. The security we are well aware of, the current thinking is that you drive rather than walk and there are specific places you don't go to. We have been given a pretty good eye-opener in pre-breifings to decide of we want to go. My concern is working.

                                      speramus in juniperus

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                                      JimmyRopes
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                                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                      The person Mrs Wife is replacing lives in a small gated and guarded compound about 1/2 a mile from work which is also secure, we would take over that house.

                                      A half mile can be a long way under certain circumstances.

                                      The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                        Yes, I have read what I can on Wikipedia and I am googlin', bingin' and even random URI'in' to find out more.

                                        Then yes, the next clear choice is to come to the Lounge. Surely you'll get a wealth of information here. :)

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                                        BobJanova
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                                        Maybe even links to Wikipedia. And then the circle is complete ...

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                                        • G Garth J Lancaster

                                          Jambo, Habari ? (Swahili for hello, how are you ?) I lived there for two years, hmmm, 74-75 iirc - I was 8, 9 y.o. At that stage my dad was teaching the Kenyans how to run a power station by computer - up until some years ago we still had some friends there. As far as I know, once they gleaned the knowledge from the whites, coupled with a major change in what was being done in the country when President Jomo Kenyatta died, they kicked out all the whites - It would be interesting if there was major software development going on there, but I doubt it - major industry these days is coffee, tourism 'g'

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                                          RC_Sebastien_C
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                                          Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                                          my dad was teaching the Kenyans how to run

                                          Your dad did a great job! http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2013/11/01/241895965/how-one-kenyan-tribe-produces-the-worlds-best-runners[^] :)

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