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Cornwall fishermen make plea over lost lobster pots

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  • E Erudite_Eric

    Facile you mean... 1) I saw pics on the news, the fisherman was explaining how tangled up they are. 2) It is. 3) I forgot what I posted. But I knew a guy on subs who said this. They used to hook up quite a few trawlers near Plymouth, and got suspicious when they realised they were being followed by them. 4) So give them loans rather than bail outs. Ha, got you there! :) As for not controlling the prices, they should, if not they are a bunch of wimps who should organise a union to set prices.

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    Erudite_Eric wrote:

    Facile you mean.

    Exactly so.

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    • E Erudite_Eric

      Yep, reckon you are right there! Something else to slap on the expenses for us tax payers to shell out for.:mad:

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      Well we can hope they all get Botulism from a bad prawn - or is that just shellfish of me?

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      • E Erudite_Eric

        I know, but would you expect the EU to bail out Champagne vinyards if they got hit by a storm? Personally I would say tough, tae it out of you massive profit margins.

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        Duncan Edwards Jones
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        probably not, but because the product is luxury, doesn't automatically mean the producer shouldn't be subsidised. For example as a UK resident you have provided a great deal of subsidy to Bombadier (after they acquired Shorts Bros) and their main product is executive jets.

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          Well we can hope they all get Botulism from a bad prawn - or is that just shellfish of me?

          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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          boom-cha!

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            probably not, but because the product is luxury, doesn't automatically mean the producer shouldn't be subsidised. For example as a UK resident you have provided a great deal of subsidy to Bombadier (after they acquired Shorts Bros) and their main product is executive jets.

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            Erudite_Eric
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            Ah, well big industry was always an issue, but I didn't know the UK psrt subsidised Bombardier? They make lovely planes though, I always enjoy flying on the CRJs.

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            • E Erudite_Eric

              Fishermen in Cornwall are calling for help with the cost of replacing hundreds of crab and lobster pots missing or damaged in the storms[^] Sounds reasonable you might think, the hard pressed fishermen want a bit of public money to buy new pots. But hang on, the tax payer should pay so that rich people can still buy lobster at 30 pounds a kilo? Just increase the price of the lobsters to 33 pounds a kilo! Why should the tax payer subsidise rich peoples luxurious eating habits! Holy crap, we will be asked to subsidise truffle and champagne production next!

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              He's in a business where loss/damage by storms should be expected. He should either factor that into his price, have insurance, or both. At the end of the day, what should happen is that he goes out of business. The more fishermen that go out of business because they're operating a business that is eventually doomed to fail, the sooner the market will compensate by raising the cost of lobster to a price that makes lobster fishing sustainable again (well, not for the lobsters.) If you can't tell, I loathe gov't subsidies that the taxpayer pays for. For all the rhetoric about democracy, we live in a socialistic poverty economy world. Marc

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                He's in a business where loss/damage by storms should be expected. He should either factor that into his price, have insurance, or both. At the end of the day, what should happen is that he goes out of business. The more fishermen that go out of business because they're operating a business that is eventually doomed to fail, the sooner the market will compensate by raising the cost of lobster to a price that makes lobster fishing sustainable again (well, not for the lobsters.) If you can't tell, I loathe gov't subsidies that the taxpayer pays for. For all the rhetoric about democracy, we live in a socialistic poverty economy world. Marc

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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                democracy

                Not in the EU.

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                  He's in a business where loss/damage by storms should be expected. He should either factor that into his price, have insurance, or both. At the end of the day, what should happen is that he goes out of business. The more fishermen that go out of business because they're operating a business that is eventually doomed to fail, the sooner the market will compensate by raising the cost of lobster to a price that makes lobster fishing sustainable again (well, not for the lobsters.) If you can't tell, I loathe gov't subsidies that the taxpayer pays for. For all the rhetoric about democracy, we live in a socialistic poverty economy world. Marc

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                  I quite agree. Its normal wear and tear and let the free market let those survive who can!

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Quick lesson in basic economics. A) Cornish fishermen are not well paid. Second) They have no lobster pots, so how can they catch the lobsters to sell them at the inflated price? 3) Most of the cost of the Lobster is paid to the Restaurant, The Haulier, The Wholesaler etc, so a 10% increase in price would give the poor fisherman about 30p. iv) The capital outlay is more than they could reasonably afford. Fifthlymost) As these pots are made locally it is actually a near-zero cost to the country.

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                    Spoken like a real politician. :~

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