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    Mauritz J Erasmus
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    Has anybody ever worked in a development position and the people you work with actually made you hate your job or is it just me?

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      Has anybody ever worked in a development position and the people you work with actually made you hate your job or is it just me?

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      Argonia
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      Yes I hate my jobsometimes. Its when they make me do some boring and uninteresting stuff like making a documentation. I blame my boss.

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        Has anybody ever worked in a development position and the people you work with actually made you hate your job or is it just me?

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        Yep, last place I worked. I turned me into a right miserable, whiny bleeder, but I was reluctant to move because I was well paid and worked 5 minutes from home. It took a job to come looking for me before I left and realised I should have done it much, much earlier. You spend a lot of your life at work, you shouldn't spend that time being miserable if you can do anything about it.

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          Yes I hate my jobsometimes. Its when they make me do some boring and uninteresting stuff like making a documentation. I blame my boss.

          Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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          Rob Philpott
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          Yes, but you can't have fun the whole time. Some things that need doing are boring. As long as no one gets singled out to do all the bad stuff, or all the good stuff.

          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            Has anybody ever worked in a development position and the people you work with actually made you hate your job or is it just me?

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            Rob Philpott
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            I think it would be better to ask if people had never worked in a place that they hated. I've had some miserable jobs, you know when it gets serious because the end of the weekend becomes deeply depressing. I just walk at that point. I work on a freelance basis so I think I suffer less from the fear of losing a job, it's naturally not going to be there for that much longer anyway. Some people hate their jobs but fear moving somewhere else, which I guess is natural, but very often can keep them trapped in a miserable situation.

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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              Yes I hate my jobsometimes. Its when they make me do some boring and uninteresting stuff like making a documentation. I blame my boss.

              Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              I thought development starts with writing documentation...:~

              I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                I thought development starts with writing documentation...:~

                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                In my case we started with no documentation at all only few bad written specifications. Then we wrote some of the code(around 80 %) and start changing things because the specification writers didn't think of everything carefully enough. After we "finished" my boss told me to make documentation on how things work o.O with no requirements, no examples it was said: Make documentation with graphics. The task was for me alone and instead of only doing documentation i also did code review and found few bugs, guess who gonna fix them.

                Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                  Has anybody ever worked in a development position and the people you work with actually made you hate your job or is it just me?

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                  BobJanova
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                  I've never hated it but my first job did frustrate me sufficiently that I quit. I liked my coworkers but they weren't properly trained so it was really tough trying to get anything developed there. They also had quite strict working hours which I don't do all that well with (particularly in the weeks after the clocks going on!). It's a good company, but it didn't work out for me there. You can never expect everything to be perfectly fun at work, though – if something's that fun then you don't have to pay people to do it.

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                    Yep, last place I worked. I turned me into a right miserable, whiny bleeder, but I was reluctant to move because I was well paid and worked 5 minutes from home. It took a job to come looking for me before I left and realised I should have done it much, much earlier. You spend a lot of your life at work, you shouldn't spend that time being miserable if you can do anything about it.

                    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                    chriselst wrote:

                    but I was reluctant to move because I was well paid and worked 5 minutes from home.

                    I call this a golden prison situation. With kids and mortgage a.s.o., the decision of changing jobs for your own better self-being is very hard to make. It would make me feel very guilty.

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                      In my case we started with no documentation at all only few bad written specifications. Then we wrote some of the code(around 80 %) and start changing things because the specification writers didn't think of everything carefully enough. After we "finished" my boss told me to make documentation on how things work o.O with no requirements, no examples it was said: Make documentation with graphics. The task was for me alone and instead of only doing documentation i also did code review and found few bugs, guess who gonna fix them.

                      Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                      Argonia wrote:

                      didn't think of everything carefully enough

                      They never do think, carefully or not!

                      Argonia wrote:

                      documentation with graphics

                      Some 15 years ago I went with my boss to sell our new (then first time Windows based) version of our application. The problem was that we had no such application, so I spend two week with Photoshop to create some nice images to sell... ;)

                      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                        Has anybody ever worked in a development position and the people you work with actually made you hate your job or is it just me?

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                        Whenever we work under pressure with tight schedules,there is a my co-worker who is Functional Analyst, laughs and says "That's why I have not chosen Development."

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                          Yes, one time at the same place. We had a top-notch contractor in, because he cost ££££s (which he actually earned - I've heard horror stories about countractors) they actually listened to him and he turned the outfit into a dynamic and interesting place to work. He left and the lessons weren't learned by the people making the decisions, so we went back to the moribund default state. All it takes quite often to flip from one state to another is one person to enter or leave the team.

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                            It usually takes both the people and the job together for me to hate the job. If the job is great but the people aren't, I can work with that. If the people are great but the job sucks, then I find value in that. But both? Ugh. I left a job after one week recently because of that combination (mind you, two of the three people were great, but the important person, the PM, was awful, and he's the one that counted.) Marc

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                              Argonia wrote:

                              didn't think of everything carefully enough

                              They never do think, carefully or not!

                              Argonia wrote:

                              documentation with graphics

                              Some 15 years ago I went with my boss to sell our new (then first time Windows based) version of our application. The problem was that we had no such application, so I spend two week with Photoshop to create some nice images to sell... ;)

                              I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                              I made my graphics with MSPaint :sigh:

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                                Has anybody ever worked in a development position and the people you work with actually made you hate your job or is it just me?

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                                kmoorevs
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                                It's not the people I work with that annoy me. It's the few customers who seem to call multiple times every week with the oddball scenarios that need special attention that make me hate the job sometimes...like today. :|

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                                  I work in this place with a guy called

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                                  and he makes me hate my job ;)

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                                    I thought development starts with writing documentation...:~

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                                    Karen Mitchelle
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                                    Yes, it does. And ends with a documentation, too.. :mad:

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                                      I think it would be better to ask if people had never worked in a place that they hated. I've had some miserable jobs, you know when it gets serious because the end of the weekend becomes deeply depressing. I just walk at that point. I work on a freelance basis so I think I suffer less from the fear of losing a job, it's naturally not going to be there for that much longer anyway. Some people hate their jobs but fear moving somewhere else, which I guess is natural, but very often can keep them trapped in a miserable situation.

                                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      Rob Philpott wrote:

                                      I think it would be better to ask if people had never worked in a place that they hated.

                                      How would one know if they hate a job on an exact point? I only hate development when my Senior Developer forces work on me, making me stop whatever I have to do for the Project Managers and the clients I currently have (which are quite fussy too). I hate having tasks forced onto me at a certain point because it breaks the flow of how I work.

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                                        Has anybody ever worked in a development position and the people you work with actually made you hate your job or is it just me?

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                                        Jonas Hammarberg
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                                        Yes ... and I left.

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                                          It usually takes both the people and the job together for me to hate the job. If the job is great but the people aren't, I can work with that. If the people are great but the job sucks, then I find value in that. But both? Ugh. I left a job after one week recently because of that combination (mind you, two of the three people were great, but the important person, the PM, was awful, and he's the one that counted.) Marc

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                                          I started at a new company 3 weeks ago and I'm considering leaving. They're too busy to give me something to sink my teeth into, and not being productive makes me utterly miserable. Even a bad project is better than being forced to try and look busy because you're new at the job :sigh:

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