Morons!! All of them!!

Rickard Andersson20

I hate it and it pisses me really off when so many swedish morons at a swedish forum (www.point-blank.nu) ask for doing graphics in DOS and doing that in DOS! AAargh!! Damnit, can't they realize that MS FUCKING DOS is nothing today!!! :mad: STOP PROGRAMMING FOR MS-DOS! Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Marc Clifton

Damnit, can't they realize that MS f***ING DOS is nothing today!!! Why? I mean, so many MS examples have you going into DOS* to use some tool for which nobody took the time to write a front end. Or to use some compiler or linker switch that isn't in the IDE. *oh, excuse me. Console mode Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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peterchen

SHOW ME HOW TO DIREKTX ON DOS (CODE PLZ). NEED MONDAY!!!!!!

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Andreas Saurwein

Dont you know that DOS doesnt work on Mondays? Unless you've got N-DOS or an early IBM DOS.

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Paul Watson

Andreas Saurwein wrote: Dont you know that DOS doesnt work on Mondays? Unless you've got N-DOS or an early IBM DOS. No, no no. DOS does not work on Sundays, not Mondays. DOS: Doesn't Operate Sundays. See? ;)

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

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Andreas Saurwein

Paul Watson wrote: No, no no. DOS does not work on Sundays, not Mondays. DOS: Doesn't Operate Sundays. See? Sorry, but you are wrong. This is the usual americanism that the first day of the week is Sunday. But in (most) parts of europe the first day of the week is Monday, since Mr. Chen (sorry peter) is in Germany, his first day of the week is Monday, thus DOS doesnt work on mondays. Ok? Got it? And dont you dare not belive me :-D :-D

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Paul Watson

Andreas Saurwein wrote: Sorry, but you are wrong. This is the usual americanism that the first day of the week is Sunday. But in (most) parts of europe the first day of the week is Monday I never said the first day of the week was Sunday. I live in South Africa and we are European, not Yankee clipperised. Monday is the first day of the week. But how the heck does this have anything to do with DOS? DOS stands for Doesn't Operate Sundays. It can't equal Doesn't Operate Mondays, that would be DOM, that is in browser and HTML and stuff. And frankly DOS not working on mondays is insane. It has to work on Mondays, why do you think Mondays are so shitty? Because DOS is working, so you have no excuse not to do your work. Unlike Sundays where you can say "But boss, DOS does not work on Sundays." See? ;)

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I don't know much about Artificial Intelligence, but I've seen a lot of Natural Stupidity in the corporate world...

Andreas Saurwein

Paul Watson wrote: But how the heck does this have anything to do with DOS? DOS stands for Doesn't Operate Sundays. It can't equal Doesn't Operate Mondays, that would be DOM, that is in browser and HTML and stuff. Sure does. Look. Internally, DOS represents Sunday (where it doesnt work in USA) by a (int)0, which unfortunately translates into a Monday in any country where Sunday is not the first day of the week. Just the usual assumption-offset error. :| I am yet thinking about an reply to your third paragraph that sounds plausible.

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Roger Wright

Swedes aren't the only ones, Rickard. I spent 7 years supporting DOS or DOS-like retail Point Of Sale (POS) systems, and have been noticing how other stores and chains do things. The vast majority of this huge market are still running DOS or text-mode UNIX systems. At most they are upgrading the look to put a window up on the screen, but it's only a graphical front end to a DOS program. In most cases the programs haven't been revisited for 10 years or more, and are long overdue for a complete redesign using modern techniques and languages. But the vendors just keep adding features and bug fixes to their antiquated DOS products, and sucking their customers dry financially with support contracts. It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

Rickard Andersson20

Funny... very funny! :mad::) Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

peterchen

U MORON NOT HELP. SHUTZ UB ;)

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Rickard Andersson20

Roger Wright wrote: Swedes aren't the only ones, Rickard :(( Roger Wright wrote: or DOS-like That's different! :) But how many are using DOS at home really? Not many... no one I would say certainly! It comes with Win9x systems but who really use only DOS today? If you have Windows why use DOS? Make a Win32 Console apps instead of a damn DOS app!! But making GAMES for DOS today isn't really serious, isn't it!? You must agree with me on this point! Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Rickard Andersson20

Marc Clifton wrote: I mean, so many MS examples have you going into DOS* *oh, excuse me. Console mode Exactly, Console mode is NOT DOS! Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Marc Clifton

Explain to me how, when I run "cmd" from the Start menu, this isn't DOS. Isn't this what's called "console" mode? If it looks like DOS, smells like DOS, and tastes like DOS, then it probably IS DOS. Maybe I'm missing something here. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Andreas Saurwein

Rickard Andersson wrote: If you have Windows why use DOS? Make a Win32 Console apps instead of a damn DOS app!! Dude, simple answer: no problems. Almost any hardware combination will do. If its a 10 year old 486, it still runs dos. But it wont run a W2k console application. And, who knows how to program a console application? Doing DOS screen paintings is a easy job. Any hundreds of applications are written for DOS, bugfixed for many years and now they run. Rewritting them would cost lots of money and bring nothing.

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Christian Graus

Rickard Andersson wrote: Console mode is NOT DOS! What is it then ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

Rickard Andersson20

Christian Graus wrote: What is it then ? Well, why can I call MessageBox and show a message box in my DOS appication?? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Jorgen Sigvardsson

Ah yes.. POS systems and DOS. Fortunately, the company which I work for, develops and sells (directly or through reseller) Windows based POS systems. :rolleyes: I'm currently working on the next major release of it. (Which will take modularity and flexibility to a never before seen level :cool:) -- "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

Jorgen Sigvardsson

People have no problem spending a few bucks on personal hardware. It's just a matter of saving up for a few months - for some not even that. However, a company don't have that luxury. If they have a perfectly working system, then why on earth should they upgrade to something they don't need? The costs aren't just the price for the hardware, but for the guy who installs it, the possibly new software, the training of personell for the new system, etc. As for doing graphics and stuff on DOS, I think that's a trait of masters. Consider writing a simple 3d-demo. In Windows et al you just fire up DirectX or OpenGL, use the already debugged and ready to use toolkit and you're done. In DOS you'd probably have to write all that yourself. You really have to work it bit by bit on DOS, which is something that requires far more attention of the programmer. I'm not saying we should all go back to DOS, but if it works for someone, let that someone use it. You don't have to. :) -- "And God said, Let us make man in our image"